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Is everything a slur to you people? For fuck's sake, get a life. You can't eliminate unpleasant things from the world by policing the words we use to talk about them.
HN would be much better with killfiles.
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I should probably post this on a throwaway... but this hit somewhat close to home. A few years ago I was going through a very tough time. I lived in the UK at the time and went to california for a meetup. After even more personal crap happened, I went on a walk seriously considering suicide. Kept trying to call friends, family, nobody picked up, it was the hardest day of my life to get through. Next thing I knew I fo…
> I found myself on top of a tall building at which point I had the clarity to figure out I really should talk to a suicide hotline. Unfortunately I didn't know the number and internet abroad was impossible to get at the time, I'm really sorry you had that experience. And I'm so so glad that you didn't die that night. I wanted to let you know that there is work currently happening (in the UK) to prevent death by suic…
I'm originally from Gloucester so appreciate what you are doing for that part of the country.
Well, I was thinking exactly the opposite of gawking when I posted it. I wanted the community to pay attention, I wanted thousands of people writing him emails/tweets, supporting his fight against the traumatic experience he encountered with the police. So he could see that ending his life isnt the only way to reach out to people about his cause. I feel like we actually closed our ears to what he was trying to say by deleting that thread. What was so wrong about discussing it here as normal human beings? People in that thread were actually discussing his experience about police brutality. From his Twitter logs, you can see that he was tweeting to some Twitter accounts and was asking for help on his cause :( I just feel like it would be nice for him to see himself on front-page of Hackernews and see that community is also outraged by what happened to him. Instead, he was harassed by several random people on Twitter calling him names and wanting him to broadcast his suicide on twitch :(
I don't mean to hurt/blame anyone or any moderator. Maybe I just feel very emotional since I met with Debian when I was 18 and it completely changed my life. I also met with him at a couple of events and he seemed like a nice guy in person, too. I just feel a little responsible for not being able to do anything after reading his tweets :( I do hope that community doesn't let what happened to him forgotten and fight for his cause.
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He also literally said he was going to commit suicide, so perhaps we should stop speculating and wait for someone who actually has real information to share it. Seriously, if ever comment on this page containing the phrase "I believe" or "I think" was deleted right now, we would not lose any objective facts.
I'd strongly prefer to focus on honoring the memory of Ian, but... while googling, I found this page: (warning, it's a 4chan thread, overflowing with hateful comments) https://archive.is/2Cdj1 In there, horrible people are inviting other horrible people to go on twitter and troll (i.e. harass) Ian. If you're close to taking your own life, you want to be close to your loved ones, and the last thing you want is to get…
/pol/ was created as a containment zone for idiots because they were too much of a hassle on /b/ (the board where literally anything goes.). The only people taking /pol/ seriously on 4chan are the /pol/acks themselves.
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There is an alternative idea that the police accidentally killed him and are trying to make it look like a suicide. They probably had his phone after all. I'd like to see if twitter can get up geocoded info on where those tweets were sent from... If it's the police station rather than Mr Murdock's house... What happens in a case like this where the police are possibly suspects in a death?
You mean a case that you just pulled out of thin air?
Well, it appears his arrest was real, not a delusion. This is all the information they had on VINE. https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/detailsAction.do?siteId=50... Offender Name: IAN ASHLEY MURDOCK Offender ID/CDCR:608067 Date of Birth:04/28/1973 Age: 42 Race: White Gender: Male Custody Status: Out of Custody Date: 12/27/2015 Reason:Bonded out
I'll leave some info here, some archived tweets. Last link for some context: https://archive.is/9HF4c https://archive.is/DcVrY https://web.archive.org/web/20151230193102/https://twitter.c...
https://jackstormwriter.wordpress.com/
Also found this comment by jackstormwriter on (a now deleted) website:
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Jay Daniels: I know Linus Torvalds owned a Macbook Air because he said he tried to install #Debian on it and failed. Godfather of #Linux uses a Mac!
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Seems like he wasn't very fond of Ian's project.
https://i.imgur.com/5cLKoJk.png
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:nOPQxC...
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On the contrary: let's dig up all the links we can so that we can find out who was responsible, and prevent it from ever happening again. Just before he died, Ian had said he was going to devote the rest of his life to fighting police brutality: http://pastebin.com/dX3VSPkM Not only would we dishonor his memory by not digging up links and making speculations about what happened (did he commit suicide, possibly due to…
I've got an idea if someone really wants to go on a hunt... This might seem incredibly nosy, but I don't think it would be too personal - check RadioReference for his city, they archive police scanner feeds, if you pay them a little, you can access the archives. If something happened and he was having some sort of mental health or drug problem, hopefully that would be mentioned, if something really did go down with t…
I got a friend who is mentally ill and is homeless sometimes, police beat him up and arrested him for being at a McDonald's on his Macbook. He was in jail for a year, gave him the wrong psyche meds, kept delaying his preliminary hearing until he had to plead guilty to get out of jail. Charged with threaten with intent to terrorize and only the police officer's word against his for evidence.
I am mentally ill myself, I became disabled in 2003. In the IT industry one has to keep the mental illness a secret or else they lose their job or end up not being hired for jobs. Basically my career was over when I developed a mental illness.
I can tell by Ian's tweets that he was not in his right mind. I hope his family files a lawsuit against the police, because they basically forced him into suicide for whatever they did.
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Ignoring all the nonsense from the first paragraph above, it is most likely he was having some major mental issues just due to the tweets linked here. The police were called by someone worried about him, and he is taking his anger out on them and blaming them for intervening. There is nothing in the local papers about this so far, which is usually on par unfortunately with suicide. Sad to see another person gone due…
You're a fucking shill trying to impose a suicide situation when it was clearly a police murder.
If you don't want it to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com.
His other motivations for his act aside, the deeper societal (as opposed to personal) issue here is police abuse. This incident shows nicely how this kind of thing can happen to anyone -- even a nice person (as say all who worked with/knew him), with no violent past, having built a huge community project, a family, working in a prominent startup, etc. White, too.
We should probably reserve judgment until more information comes to light. It's possible he was having a mental breakdown and did not have an accurate conception of reality. He says he was given bail, which implies he was arrested. Arrests are usually a matter of public record. Is there any data on the record supporting this?
