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Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by Sumaso »

acqq wrote: post #201
inversionOf wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, so I hope others see your real motives. Don't upgrade. You paid $0 for Windows 10, had absolutely no expectations about it when you apparently bought Windows 7, and now it's a "disaster" because an unused feature was openly and clearly removed. Give me a break. This sort of "take a shit on everything" attitude is one of the worst facets of HN, and your comments in particular exemplify them. Don't upgrade . Move…

Says the account created 4 days ago in his 4th comment on the site. Hello Microsoft puppet? It's still a disaster for me because of what was once called Metro. It's my own opinion, you can like it, no problem.

Your crazy man.

Don't upgrade to 10 and keep your old functionality.

inversionOf is making some valid points here, there is no need to attack him.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by egeozcan »

toxican wrote: post #185
oliwarner wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should have read to the end. Clearly a joke.

The amount straw grasping I've seen when people try to justify their purchases leaves me unable to tell anymore.

Me too. I'm constantly surprised by the amount of Stockholm Syndrome reminding behavior in the tech world. I'm not sure if this behavior is more common in this world or I see it more because that's the bubble I'm living in. Watching people bending backwards to rationalize their irrational decisions never ceases to confuse me.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by LocalPCGuy »

melling wrote: post #2

Let's hope Windows 10 is a big hit with PC users. Consumers trade in those old XP boxes and hundreds of millions take the free upgrade. Then maybe within 24 months lots of old IE's will fade away. https://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qpr... Edge appears to be a much better browser: https://html5test.com/results/desktop.html

Netmarketshare is a horrible source for real browser stats. Except when you want to inflate IE usage numbers, of course.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by tw04 »

acqq wrote: post #6

Note that the upgrade will remove your Windows built-in DVD player. The right to play DVDs must be paid for every computer. You paid it when you bought the Windows 7 or 8 that you'll maybe upgrade to 10. Now the upgrade to Windows 10 takes that feature away from you. They apparently (the twitter message isn't actually the company statement) plan to return it "sometime in the future" and "if it might be free or if it…

Honest question - who cares? Someone actually used the built-in media player? Step 1 for me on any new desktop/workstation install (regardless of OS) is to install VLC.

I have to believe the number of people who actually use that can be counted in the tenths of a percent of their user base.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by egeozcan »

throwawaykf05 wrote: post #152
jbk wrote: post #106

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(disclaimer: I wrote that page :) ) Well, there are 2 legal parts that apply here: - DRM - software patents. Software patents for DVDs are almost all over (it's a 20 year old technology). And in Europe, we don't have valid software patents. On the DRM part, libdvdcss is not DeCSS, it's either finding the right key or brute-forcing to find the right key. In order to play a DVD, you need to "open" the DRM, else you can…

> And in Europe, we don't have valid software patents. That is categorically untrue, and you should stop telling people that. In Europe, software is not patent-eligible "as such", but it is if it solves a technical problem. The only thing that eliminates is "business method" patents, which are just a subset of what people generally refer to as "software patents".

I'm interested, could you please give an example?

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by LocalPCGuy »

tdicola wrote: post #68
donkeyd wrote: post #58

Dear marketing people, please stop using "The best ever". If you make a new product it should be better than the previous version, it it's not, you did something very wrong.

> If you make a new product it should be better than the previous version, it it's not, you did something very wrong. They broke that rule with Windows 8/8.1 and are trying to fix it with Windows 10.

I agree they did mess up the UI, and did a bad job marketing it, but from a technical standpoint, W8 was the best version of Windows so far (when released), consistently.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by devilmoon »

krisdol wrote: post #191
devilmoon wrote: post #111

willingly installing botnet, why would you do that? https://i.4cdn.org/g/1438152355097.jpg

Here's a mirror, since 4chan files are sometimes auto-wiped relatively quickly http://i.imgur.com/QSKsW0G.jpg

Nice, wanted to do that and then forgot it

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by ikeboy »

dhess wrote: post #85

Anyone here know much about Windows licensing? This seems like a good opportunity to ask. I never run Windows on bare metal. I only run Windows on virtual machines on my Mac desktop and Mac laptop; only for personal use; and only on the rare occasion when I need to run the odd Windows-only application. I would like to go legit this time around, but it's nigh-impossible to find any specific documentation from Microsof…

>only for personal use; and only on the rare occasion when I need to run the odd Windows-only application.

If you're using it rarely, why not use the trial version, and reset to a snapshot whenever you use it? You can save data on a separate virtual disk, and only reset the operating system disk.

There used to be VMs at https://dev.modern.ie/tools/vms/. I don't see Windows 10 there right now, not sure why, but I know I've downloaded from there before; maybe wait a few weeks or so.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by tw04 »

acqq wrote: post #61
gambiting wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows 10 still supports music and video playback just fine, through applications called Xbox Music and Xbox Video: "Xbox Video supports all the video files you’ve probably been downloading the VLC Media Player desktop app to watch." http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/01/25/windows-10-vs-window...

But not the DVD playback, which has to be licensed additionally. Being the person who also legally bought the DVDs (all of them are DRMd nowadays) it really hurts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_Scramble_System

If you upgrade from a version that supported DVD playback rather than do a fresh install, the DVD playback will still be there.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by Someone1234 »

cwyers wrote: post #199
inversionOf wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, so I hope others see your real motives. Don't upgrade. You paid $0 for Windows 10, had absolutely no expectations about it when you apparently bought Windows 7, and now it's a "disaster" because an unused feature was openly and clearly removed. Give me a break. This sort of "take a shit on everything" attitude is one of the worst facets of HN, and your comments in particular exemplify them. Don't upgrade . Move…

Or upgrade and download VLC.

VLC, in my experience, plays 90%+ of DVDs perfectly (actually better, since now everything is skippable and you get significantly more rendering options than any other player).

The few DVDs which malfunction are typically published by Disney in the last few years and contain DRM specifically designed to break unlicensed players. VLC have been very active in fixing these issues, and have in many cases.

But if people plan on using VLC just be aware that the rare DVD won't work well or at all. Still the best DVD playing software I've used, including paid software.

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