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Take me as an Intern – 19yo student seeking internship

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Re: Take me as an Intern – 19yo student seeking internship

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You need a bachelors degree in order to get an H1B.

And more than that, not enough spots for everybody. Big companies are going to get most of them no? Especially for an intern, it is almost impossible.

No company is going to waste thousands of $ to hire an intern. Most H1B go to those fake Indian companies and Google etc.

Re: Take me as an Intern – 19yo student seeking internship

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I'll be completely honest and say that it makes me feel slightly awkward because it's a major component of the resume and yet is completely irrelevant for deciding if he's qualified or not. To me, it's distracting and actually makes me feel slightly pressured to cut him some slack because he put in extra effort on making the resume pretty. All that said, for someone who hasn't even started college yet, I think every…

I have to be honest here.... I review resumes and have a say in hiring decisions in my company. I would probably have a tendency to disregard this resume because of the picture. It is pretty distracting and frankly makes me uncomfortable. I don't wish to evaluate a candidate based on their looks but this one says "my looks are important to my job qualifications." Perhaps I'm old fashion and this is over the top but i…

Distracting? You can't see the photo when you're looking at the 'resume' part of the page.

It's pretty a standard marketing format - big friendly picture of one or two people from the waist up, whether it's a support person speaking into a headset or a hard-working suit-wearer tapping into a computer.

Re: Take me as an Intern – 19yo student seeking internship

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As a 20 year old I'm frustrated that your eye for design is way better than mine, but at the same time, I'm also frustrated that you're listing projects and they're not on your github, nor are they apparently deployed at all... The images aren't hyperlinks. * Wire clothing - there are a billion clothing brands with wire in the name, which one is yours? * VIDBY - google search shows nothing in first 3 pages. * Mobile…

I have hired a lot of developers over the last 15 years and not once have I cared if they have a github account.

Probably lots of people are like you. I think the world is changing, though, and I think it is instructive to note that the person complaining about the lack of Github content is 20 years old. I've read hundreds of CVs for web developers in the last 2 years and I could point to only a handful that didn't include some kind of reference to a portfolio (usually on Github).

Even though you say that you don't care about a Github account when hiring, you went out of your way to look at this person's website on HN. I suspect that it made a bigger impression on you than if the person had simply emailed you a Word file with their CV. The fact that the person cares enough to craft something and show it off says something about them.

Personally, I go and look at every single portfolio that gets sent to me. If there is anything half way interesting on there it gets an automatic telephone interview even if their CV is otherwise unappealing. I'm looking for people with decent technical chops -- I'm not bothered about how they got there.

I've gotten jobs through my portfolio before as well. I have one fairly large but poorly written Ruby app, a handful of well-intentioned but abandoned projects, and an egotistical semi-blog (which has some cringe-worthy content that I really should edit ASAP ;-) ). As bad as my portfolio is, it is miles better than 99% of what I've seen (generally cut and paste rails projects).

For anybody with real talent this can be a differentiator. It will get you to an interview and give the interviewer something to ask questions about. For me what the OP built would be much more than enough to interest me if we were hiring an intern, but the point of linking to whatever else they have done is a very good one. Especially for a permanent position, I would be following up on that.

Re: Take me as an Intern – 19yo student seeking internship

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Good god can we please stop with the photos? Do you people really want to go back to the 1950s where a photo was required with a resume? Do you really want your potential employers to be judging you on your looks/race/ethnicity at the resume stage? It may be beneficial to you (you are the "correct" race and gender and you look young and not ugly) but for those of us that aren't - we don't want pressure to include pho…

This isn't a submitted resume, it's a marketing site.

Would you have all marketing sites also strip out photo portraits? A ton of enterprise services have landing pages with the portrait of an attractive support officer talking into a headset, or some besuited office worker tapping into a keyboard.

Re: Take me as an Intern – 19yo student seeking internship

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Congrats. You put a lot of American job seeking college kids to shame.

This guy is selling out hard. Coming from a guy with a more active GitHub and projects, I don't see how this guy is any different than any American college kid.

Standard American college kid doesn't really have opensource contributions to speak of.

Re: Take me as an Intern – 19yo student seeking internship

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I have no (public) github account and I approve this message.

Out of the 120 developers where I work, about 5 have active github accounts. Hiring based on github is ridiculous.

Are any of those 5 githubbers in the "lower half" amongst all 120 developers?

Re: Take me as an Intern – 19yo student seeking internship

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Maybe because he's 19? I agree though. This is not exceptional or very impressive. I don't really get why this has more upvotes than the 14 year old kid who posted a relatively way cooler site that utilized a bunch of APIs, etc.

Drive and ambition are more valuable than "look what cool thing I made". You can teach talent; you can't teach motivation.

Well, okay. I see where you're coming from but you can absolutely teach motivation. It is, however, extremely harder, because motivation is not as tangible as talent in the case of the individual. I mean, I'm not sure I'm not alone in wishing my own motivation at 19 was matched by this very motivated person.

I think, however, that is the idea of this community. The I-Wish-I-Executed-My-Idea-At-19 types Even-Though-I-Only-Have-Words-And-College-Classes-To-Show-For-It. Maybe I'm wrong.

Re: Take me as an Intern – 19yo student seeking internship

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Drive and ambition are more valuable than "look what cool thing I made". You can teach talent; you can't teach motivation.

Well, okay. I see where you're coming from but you can absolutely teach motivation. It is, however, extremely harder, because motivation is not as tangible as talent in the case of the individual. I mean, I'm not sure I'm not alone in wishing my own motivation at 19 was matched by this very motivated person. I think, however, that is the idea of this community. The I-Wish-I-Executed-My-Idea-At-19 types Even-Though-I-…

The sort of motivation I'm talking about you can't be taught:

https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-be-as-great-as-Bill-Gates-St...

Re: Take me as an Intern – 19yo student seeking internship

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Maybe because he's 19? I agree though. This is not exceptional or very impressive. I don't really get why this has more upvotes than the 14 year old kid who posted a relatively way cooler site that utilized a bunch of APIs, etc.

He is young, surely, but in this very moment, there are silent young people on GitHub with exceptional projects. There are some people in their early-20 that are proving to be exceptional in the startup and the programming world. Maybe we are stuck in time when we started: back in the days Internet was more like a myth than a resource. And this feat would have been amazing. Nowadays you can nearly be a programmer wit…

Why do we all have to be young?

I'm 27 years old (am I still young?) and started self teaching 2 years ago. I'm creating an API for poets/poetry because it doesn't exist. I'm implementing my own API to serve the poems and let users metaphorically match their favorite poems to their favorite alcoholic beverages; poetryandalcohol.com (not up yet). I'm also working on something similar to Yummly and BigOven, however, not only let's users plan their meals, but incorporates the USDA food prices API to let them know how much their grocery list will be for the week or whatever.

I have no reminiscing to do. The internet has ALWAYS been a resource for me. But in different ways.

The feat this gentleman has made is no less than that of twenty years ago. You still need a degree to get an entry level job of the same sort as ten years ago. In fact, I'd argue that twenty years ago, people didn't care if you had a degree or not in computer science, so long as you had the experience/could prove you can do the work. Today, it's not only a degree/experience, which this person has BARELY showed (aw crap, I forgot he's 19), but you also need side projects, open source contributions, and a penchant for motivation. I'd say it's still torture for us self-taughts who work in a warehouse 9-5 filling orders for computer fans at a median wage.

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