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Announcing the Surface 3

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Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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LOL at using Windows on a high DPI screen. Windows 8 improved a lot, but using any Desktop apps (Photoshop, IE, Chrome, etc.) is horrible, everything is super tiny. They haven't really given much though to scaling yet, even in Windows 10 scaling is still being figured out.

This is so patently false I'm not sure if you aren't just trolling. I use windows 8 on a 150 DPI screen (28" 4k) on my work desktop and a 220 DPI screen on my laptop (rMBP). Both have no problems, and most commercial apps already support it (chrome, IE no problem, I've heard phtoshop is ok as well).

I have rMBP too and no I'm not trolling, you must not be using it at the full resolution. If you use Windows at the full resolution for the device, everything gets extremely small, so you have to increase the font/title bar size, even then you have to turn on zoom on IE and Chrome and the UI elements on all Desktop apps is incredibly tiny. Playing games is incredibly annoying because of how tiny everything is. Most Desktop apps do not support scaling in Windows the way one think it would. If you are fine with using one Metro app (or two with one pinned) at a time, then it's perfect.

Even in Windows 10, the new update has issues with scaling. It now caps out correctly (1920 x 1200), but it is blurry as hell.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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The Atom CPU in the Surface 3 doesn't seem competitive with the A8X in the iPad Air 2. Geekbench results:

  Uploaded	Model			Processor		Frequency	Cores	Platform	Single-Core Score	Multi-Core Score
  Feb 21, 2015	Intel CHERRYVIEW	Intel Atom x7-Z8700	1601		4	Windows 32-bit		984		3210
  Feb 13, 2015	Intel CHERRYVIEW	Intel Atom x7-Z8700	1601		4	Windows 64-bit		990		3451

  Uploaded	Model			Processor		Frequency	Cores	Platform	Single-Core Score	Multi-Core Score
  Jan 27, 2015	iPad Air 2		Apple A8X		1500		3	iOS 64-bit		1814		4665

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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I own a Surface Pro 3, and when I first got it I'd describe the experience as just mediocre. However Microsoft has been aggressively updating the software as has Intel, and as a result of those effects the SP3 has really stepped up and is now quite a good little tablet/ultrabook combo. I only have two remaining concerns with the SP3: My i5 version continues to get extremely hot near the middle of the device (e.g. whe…

I had the same issue with the power connector, and when I contacted Microsoft support (I used the online chat), they sent me a new one right away. It looks like the new one is designed slightly differently so that the fraying won't happen.

For what it's worth, I had the fraying problem on my old MacBook Air charter too.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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I was honestly hoping they'd give up on the whole touchscreen + mouse/keyboard interface integration, this announcement pretty much confirms they're in it for the long haul. Both inputs are vastly different so their UIs are full of compromises and over-sized controls.

...But Windows 10 pretty completely addresses that.

Not fully, It is still full of massive compromises. Tablet mode is still broken and confusing and there's only two more months until it ships!

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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For $500 I can get a real ultrabook. Like Dell XPS 11 2560 x 1440 display 4GB RAM 128GB SSD http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/665236/Dell-XPS-11-XPS...

Not a very fair comparision since at this point that laptop is EOL'ed and its original price is 1199.

EOL or not, many of its specs are better. Some are worse, I admit.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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I'll buy one when Linux is a first-class OS on it, and not a moment before. I'd love to have sexy hardware from Microsoft, running Linux. I don't know why thats so hard for the marketing-peeps to comprehend .. make it first-class, and you've got something that might have a chance against the rMBP-using 'elite' ..

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Actual product page: http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/products/surface-3 And buy now page with tech specs: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productI... Looks like $499 for 64GB storage and 2GB RAM, $599 for 128GB storage and 4GB of RAM (WiFi models; 4G LTE model pricing wasn't showing for me).

That 2 GB, 64 GB model just looks painful to use. I've seen a lot of Windows installs use up more than 64 GB, in particular as WinSXS grows as more updates are installed (thus more duplicate DLLs are stored). If anyone asked me, I'd describe 128 GB as the "minimum" storage needed for Windows. And even then you aren't storing much if any user data on it. 4 GB is the minimum I'd run anything newer than Windows XP on. T…

Windows' use of WinSXS and RAM scales with the available capacity. That behavior with WinSXS particularly irks me as it implies acknowledgment that most of those files are unnecessary, yet there's nothing you can do to combat the cancerous tumor that grows in a 128-256gb partition.

I've found 2gb to be perfectly usable with Win7 and 8, Chrome's voracious appetite for memory would be a sticking point, except I've noticed that it does a better job of managing itself when RAM is limited. Chrome runs just fine on 1gb Chromebooks despite having just 768-512mb available most of the time. I will say that the Atom processor is a concern with Chrome even though I know the latest versions are roughly 2-3x more powerful than the Pineview dual core I had in my old Dell netbook. Chrome routinely maxed out the processor on every page load while Firefox and IE never needed more than 25% of the available CPU horsepower. Tripling the available power would eliminate the 5 second lockups I experienced but it could still be a slow, stuttery user experience.

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