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Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by digi_owl »

32ppki wrote: post #170
Crito wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Never mind the whole lockdown unless you flip that "developer" switch." Speaking of which, it would be nice if that were a physical switch on Pixels. With the original Pixel at least, there is an issue that if your battery runs completely dead, the bit that tells the computer it should be in developer mode is unset. When that happens, if you have linux installed on it, you are hosed. Everything on the drive become…

https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/developer-information-f...

Well snap. No Chromebook for me any time soon...

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by mmastrac »

chez17 wrote: post #166
revelation wrote: post #148

Jesus, designing a usable ultrabook must be very difficult. We have one contender from California, but their ideology has them offer just a single USB-C port. Now we get the competitor from Mountain View, who have rightly recognized the need for more than one fucking port when that's how you charge the damn thing, and what do they decide? Oh yeah, we'll top out storage at 64GiB.

It has an SD card reader. You can double the storage for super cheap.

You could even triple it with the new 200GB SD cards, but the performance won't be that great. Not so bad for storing documents and large media, I suppose.

Any idea if it uses one of the many standard-ish SSD SATA or PCIe interfaces?

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by pbreit »

revelation wrote: post #148

Jesus, designing a usable ultrabook must be very difficult. We have one contender from California, but their ideology has them offer just a single USB-C port. Now we get the competitor from Mountain View, who have rightly recognized the need for more than one fucking port when that's how you charge the damn thing, and what do they decide? Oh yeah, we'll top out storage at 64GiB.

Complaining about Apple removing ports is foolhardy and pretty much always wrong.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by knodi123 »

revelation wrote: post #197
egonschiele wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole point of a chromebook is that the storage is in the cloud. I was surprised they offered so much storage.

That's great, but even at 1GBit over Google Fiber that has still less bandwidth than an actual SSD. And of course the most important part of why you use an SSD in the first place is latency, where cloud storage is significantly slower than 1995 spinning platter hard disks. So even if I accept that the storage is in the cloud , it doesn't make sense since the hardware is clearly not there, but the software isn't eithe…

can you use VMWare on a chromebook?

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by smackfu »

egonschiele wrote: post #172

I'm not sure why this is better than the cheapest macbook air?Similar battery life, similar processor. 4gb more memory, smaller hard drive. And the cheapest pixel is $100 more. What do I get for that $100? For me the downsides are: can only use apps from the chrome web store, no unix command line (maybe it exists and I don't know?). I'm really happy someone is trying to compete, but not sure why I would buy this.

This is Retina, Macbook Air is not.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by pbreit »

higherpurpose wrote: post #191
ChuckMcM wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What most people have missed is that USB allows charging and data over the same port. So you can easily get a power adapter that has a charging tip which has on the same cord another USB-C port (socket) which you can plug into your display chain, or port replicator or what not. In Apple's case I fully expect they will make it so that when you plug your Apple display into your laptop it also charges it since the charg…

For all of Apple's focus on "simplicity" and "elegance" in design and whatnot, the company sure makes you carry a shitload of ugly dongles and extra cables and adapters along with your iDevices. Wouldn't they be more elegant if they would, you know...Just Work?!

For something that is performed several times per day (plugging in/out) I appreciate the clear superiority of Lightning cables.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

higherpurpose wrote: post #191
ChuckMcM wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What most people have missed is that USB allows charging and data over the same port. So you can easily get a power adapter that has a charging tip which has on the same cord another USB-C port (socket) which you can plug into your display chain, or port replicator or what not. In Apple's case I fully expect they will make it so that when you plug your Apple display into your laptop it also charges it since the charg…

For all of Apple's focus on "simplicity" and "elegance" in design and whatnot, the company sure makes you carry a shitload of ugly dongles and extra cables and adapters along with your iDevices. Wouldn't they be more elegant if they would, you know...Just Work?!

They don't make you. Apple's approach is you do everything wirelessly. For the laggards, well, you might need an adapter or two, but it's still more portable than a thicker and heavier laptop.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by fizzbatter »

revelation wrote: post #197
egonschiele wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole point of a chromebook is that the storage is in the cloud. I was surprised they offered so much storage.

That's great, but even at 1GBit over Google Fiber that has still less bandwidth than an actual SSD. And of course the most important part of why you use an SSD in the first place is latency, where cloud storage is significantly slower than 1995 spinning platter hard disks. So even if I accept that the storage is in the cloud , it doesn't make sense since the hardware is clearly not there, but the software isn't eithe…

To be fair, you're not running VMWare on the Pixel either (i don't think?). I'm skeptical that it is even a problem for just about anything you can actually run on the OS. It's a Chromebook afterall, running disk-utilizing programs is not it's design speciality.

Sure, you could dump Linux on it - but i'm not sure how many would choose a Pixel over some other highend brands for a Linux machine.

I believe the disk is mainly just used as a cache, for web apps (music/etc). Just about everything is stored in the "cloud".

(I own a first generation Chromebook, but things may have changed)

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by choward »

egonschiele wrote: post #156
revelation wrote: post #148

Jesus, designing a usable ultrabook must be very difficult. We have one contender from California, but their ideology has them offer just a single USB-C port. Now we get the competitor from Mountain View, who have rightly recognized the need for more than one fucking port when that's how you charge the damn thing, and what do they decide? Oh yeah, we'll top out storage at 64GiB.

The whole point of a chromebook is that the storage is in the cloud. I was surprised they offered so much storage.

In a world where cable companies monopolize broadband Internet and cell phone carriers charge for data by the megabyte, I'm pretty sure I don't want to rely solely on the cloud.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by Crito »

32ppki wrote: post #170
Crito wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Never mind the whole lockdown unless you flip that "developer" switch." Speaking of which, it would be nice if that were a physical switch on Pixels. With the original Pixel at least, there is an issue that if your battery runs completely dead, the bit that tells the computer it should be in developer mode is unset. When that happens, if you have linux installed on it, you are hosed. Everything on the drive become…

https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/developer-information-f...

Thank you! Hopefully I never have to do this, but I feel much better knowing that it is possible.
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