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Re: The new MacBook

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It just means we're going to stay stuck in dongle hell. When I'm on the road the minimalism of a Mac is nice, but at my desk, hooked up to everything I really need for heavy work, my desktop is a cluster-f of cables and adapters and wires.

Sounds like what you want is a ... Desktop Computer.

You mean that portable USB hard drives should be used with desktop computers, not portable laptops?

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I am a bit on the fence about them seemingly jettisoning the lighting connector? Why go with a plug that has a delicate prong in the center rather than a plug with the contacts around the perimeter? Does anyone know if there was any emphasis put on making USB-C less flimsy and delicate?

Current USB connectors have prongs in the middle of the female side as well, but I've never ever seen one break off before, and that's with people (including myself) trying to force plugs in the wrong orientation. Is there a reason to worry about these new connectors' prong strength?

Maybe it depends on who builds your devices, but I have had several usb prongs break off on me even when I was careful. This happened on one desktop and several gaming consoles.

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The obvious end game for USB 3.1 type C is replacing your laptop with a phone. USB 3.1 type C is the "universal docking station", providing power, data & display over a single cable. Obviously useful for a laptop, but even more useful to a phone. Apple obviously could merge OSX & iOS into a single OS, but I have real difficulty seeing them doing that. (It also seems unlikely that they'll replace Lightning with USB 3.…

But improving life for their customers.

So good on them.

Re: The new MacBook

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Seriously? Couldn't they have put _two_ ports in it so you can plug something in while it's being charged without lugging around a usb hub?

This won't work well when using an air to do presentations and you can't switch between a monitor and power.... The slightly cynical me tends to think the thunderbolt port was great and on every mac. now new adapters...

Here at Microsoft all our meeting rooms are supporting wireless display tech - apple air play included. This seems to be in line with apple's history - ditch technology that is approaching its end of life and force the newer tech to take over. There's still the ability to do wired external displays, but it's at the same convenience the usb cd drives were when apple phased them out.

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Specs are interesting - 8gb ram,256 gb flash drive,1.1/2.4 turbo ghz, but 1300$ ? way too expensive,as it cost as much as the mb pro.A price under 1000$ would have made way more sense for a macbook. But I guess they have the data that show people are ready to pay that price for that item. Still , the pricing strategy between mb,mb air and mb pro is a bit confusing. -----

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I wonder if it would be possible to build a USB-C charger where the tip is connected to the rest of the cord with magnets. I don't see why we would need to give up the disconnect-when-tripping-on-the-cord just because the final connector now becomes more solidly connected to the laptop?

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Why wouldn't they include 4G/LTE in this?

It's a serious question. It's basically a "mega-tablet," a high-end mobile device with a "real OS." It's designed for doing serious work in an ultra-portable fashion.

I can tether to my phone of course, but this seems like an option they should have considered.

Re: The new MacBook

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Apple's role here is often to be more opinionated, or braver, than others. They were the first to adopt USB, first to stop shipping floppy drives, first to ditch optical drives, first to make high-DPI ('retina') displays a standard feature... they are willing to be the one who goes out there and says 'we all know this is where things are going - so let's quit pussy-footing around and just do it'. This new MacBook ann…

Plenty of laptop manufacturers had laptops without optical drives before Apple, so I'm guessing you mean across the whole line?

Apple were about the first to drop them in consumer stuff; most previous companies to drop them did so in ultra-expensive (think those $4,000 Vaios Sony used to do) ultra-portables only.

Strictly speaking, Apple has not dropped optical drives across the line; you can actually still buy a 13" non-retina Macbook with one. Though given that it's worse in practically every way than the Air, and more expensive, I doubt that anyone does.

Re: The new MacBook

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Why wouldn't they include 4G/LTE in this? It's a serious question. It's basically a "mega-tablet," a high-end mobile device with a "real OS." It's designed for doing serious work in an ultra-portable fashion. I can tether to my phone of course, but this seems like an option they should have considered.

Because they also sell a phone.

Re: The new MacBook

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I'm glad apple picked this up after so many others pushed it forward :) But 1 port is sad, because now you have to choose between a lot of things (charging, using hdmi, whatever)

It just means we're going to stay stuck in dongle hell. When I'm on the road the minimalism of a Mac is nice, but at my desk, hooked up to everything I really need for heavy work, my desktop is a cluster-f of cables and adapters and wires.

This is one of the great things about buying an Apple Cinema Display. My Displayport model provides audio/video over one cable, camera/microphone over another, and a third MagSafe connector. The Thunderbolt design allows for audio/video/camera/microphone/ethernet/firewire/even more thunderbolt, plus a magsafe connector.

I think we'll see a lot of small USB hubs with a USB-C connector to your laptop and all your USB/audio/Displayport/ethernet out, so that getting back to your desk is one cable to plug in and not a half-dozen.

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