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Spidermonkey has passed V8 on Octane performance

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Re: Spidermonkey has passed V8 on Octane performance

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Post by carussell »

personZ wrote: post #180
letstryagain wrote: post #65

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You have 200 tabs open? How do you find the tab you want? How often do you look at each of the 200 tabs? What happens when you're on another computer? What happens if you accidentally close Chrome, do you open all 200 tabs again?

I suspect that the reason people keeps tabs open is a deficiency of all modern browsers -- if we had the ability to search the contents of our history of sites, it would dramatically reduce our need to desperately hold onto tabs. Right now you can search the history, but it searches only the title and basic metadata, and as we know well from HN, titles are often wholly unrelated with the content. So many times I've f…

Assemble a team or otherwise generate enough interest in making Permafrost[1] a reality, and you could have this. I'd love to work on this with somebody...

1. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Permafrost

Re: Spidermonkey has passed V8 on Octane performance

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Post by Symmetry »

cpeterso wrote: post #97
quaunaut wrote: post #86

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That doesn't really fix what I like most. I like being able to hit a, see Amazon.com hilighted, hit tab, and have that be searching Amazon. Or to do the same thing with GMail, Wikipedia, Youtube. It's the core functionality I like most with Chrome.

How do I enable the Omnibar search behavior you describe? When I enter "a" in the Omnibar, I see amazon.com in the Omnibar drop down list, but when I hit tab, Chrome just highlights the next item in the drop down list. It doesn't search Amazon. Have you manually added Amazon to Chrome's "Manage search engines" list? Firefox has something similar: "Keyword Searches" bookmarks. I define my own search shortcuts, such as…

Wow, I didn't have any idea that that existed. That doesn't look discoverable at all and the Chome UI provides feedback that Firefox doesn't - but the ergonomics are just as good and that's enough for me to switch my home computers back to defaulting to Firefox.

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Post by WorldWideWayne »

lucian1900 wrote: post #206
coldtea wrote: post #203

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> Many perceivers, for instance, miss the distinction between "Don't be evil." and "Don't do evil.". The former is a mindset, strategy, and intention, while the latter is impossible for a corporation with 50k employees. No, we perceive the disctinction just fine. Some of us just believe Google does "evil" with mindset, strategy, and intention...

I would suggest that those of you that believe that are deluded. What possible motivation could they have for being "evil", comic book style?

You don't think they're a front company for the NSA?

What possible motivation does anyone have for doing evil?

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Post by forgotpasswd3x »

miket wrote: post #58
MichaelGG wrote: post #39

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Same here. Especially as Google becomes more and more evil, Chrome looks less attractive. Even on mobile, I use FF, despite it needing a lot of work and having a lot of rendering and input issues. And Chrome on Android looks very sexy. On desktop, FF is fine, once more. Rust is also one of the most promising languages with a potentially massive impact on the world. Not only safer software, but exposing more programme…

Don't forget that a large chunk of Mozilla's revenue comes from Google: http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/11/21/mozillas-reliance-g...

It's not like Google's just gifting them the money...

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Post by lucian1900 »

WorldWideWayne wrote: post #213
lucian1900 wrote: post #206

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I would suggest that those of you that believe that are deluded. What possible motivation could they have for being "evil", comic book style?

You don't think they're a front company for the NSA? What possible motivation does anyone have for doing evil?

> You don't think they're a front company for the NSA?

No, I don't. the NSA isn't magic or the Illuminati.

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Post by kevingadd »

Tloewald wrote: post #175

Firefox's hopeless video and audio implementation (especially on Mac OS X) remains a deal breaker for me. It means resorting to Flash in a lot of cases, which means I use another browser. I'm glad to see strides being made in JavaScript performance, but basic browser functionality is far more important.

HTML5 video and audio in Firefox works perfectly in every site I visit. What problems do you hit? I haven't used it on Mac so perhaps the support is less good there.

Some sites don't attempt to use / in Firefox for me, but that's a site issue, not a browser issue - h264 and webm both work fine.

Re: Spidermonkey has passed V8 on Octane performance

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Post by WorldWideWayne »

skrowl wrote: post #28
rdtsc wrote: post #3

I have been very impressed by Firefox lately. Kudos to the whole team at Mozilla. Just about 5 years ago, it was looking to me like it was the end of Firefox. It was Chrome all the way. New features were coming out one after another. Faster rendering. Safe process isolation for each tab. Looked better. But I just switched back last month. It happened kind of randomly. Saw an announcement of a new release ( 33, I thin…

I've been reminding everyone I know who still uses Chrome to try Firefox again. Many have switched back. It's simply a better browser. One e10s is in stable, it's going to be even better. Google is a for-profit company that makes money selling your data and targeted, personal ads. Mozilla is not-for-profit and just wants to make the web better.

> It's simply a better browser.

Mozilla does not respect the rules of my native OS. For over five years, they insisted that double-clicking the upper-left corner of the window should not close the window like every other app on the system. Nope. They insisted on doing it their way ignoring the complaints of thousands of users.

Firefox also makes you press Shift to use access keys. Totally non-standard amongst browsers and OSes and annoying for devs and users.

Is Firefox the only browser left that hasn't switched to multiple processes?

No, Firefox isn't better and I don't trust Mozilla anymore than Google.

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Post by WorldWideWayne »

lucian1900 wrote: post #215
WorldWideWayne wrote: post #213

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You don't think they're a front company for the NSA? What possible motivation does anyone have for doing evil?

> You don't think they're a front company for the NSA? No, I don't. the NSA isn't magic or the Illuminati.

Don't be silly. The probability that the NSA works through Google doesn't hinge on magic or the Illuminati at all.

It's quite common that intelligence agencies use front companies to do their work. Look it up.

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