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Your friends are lying to you. For $10, I wont.

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Post by DanBC »

oceanstone wrote: post #188
lmg643 wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we're missing the joke here: this is an update on the concept of "my 2 cents", with the difference being... ...he has adjusted for inflation, with a markup. http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

From 1913 to 2014, $0.02 cents inflated to $0.48 cents. At that rate, wouldn't it be over 100 years before reaching $10? In which case, in 2014 he'd have to share 20.83 opinions per session to justify the cost.

That's inflation adjusted, but now you need to do the compound interest to get it from $0.02 to $10.

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Post by floatingatoll »

BorisMelnik wrote: post #180
floatingatoll wrote: post #168

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> If you say "No bro, I am not looking to score" he will ask "OK, well what are your intentions? What is your actual concern with your outfit?" RainSunshine, you registered at HN today and have posted only on this post and nowhere else, speaking with high confidence about how a random person on the Internet will respond to specific example questions. What is your relation to Jordan and/or this site?

everyones gotta start somewhere

I have no objections to RainSunshine's commentary, it's actually quite valuable in the context. I just believe that whatever link they have to the site should be clearly disclosed, if such exists.

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Post by bhc »

JonTarg wrote: post #193
bhc wrote: post #89

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That self-description and his picture (of himself drinking beer out of a bottle at a bar) gave me second thought about his ability to give an advice that's different than one that would be dispensed by a typical 20-something 'bro' working in IT.

> bro And your whole assumption gives me the impression that you are a ridiculously superficial person.

Maybe I was being too harsh.

It wasn't my intention to use 'bro' as a derogatory term.

Re: Your friends are lying to you. For $10, I wont.

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Post by jtheory »

zamabe wrote: post #172
jtheory wrote: post #116

I, personally, cannot imagine any question to which I would get a more valuable answer from a 28-year-old software engineer in California interested in finance, men's fashion and weightlifting than I would get from my wife, family, friends and peers -- people who know me; whose lives actually overlap with mine in some way. What is "telling it like it is" if you don't share the same context? How likely is it he can pi…

> I imagine myself paying $10 and asking "hey, what do you think of my outfit tonight?" And he would kindly inform me that my chances of scoring (or whatever they call it these days) wearing these sandals, hiking pants (pull these zippers and they become shorts!) and grey kinda stretched-out long-sleeve t-shirt are next to zero. But my Friday night activity was going out with my wife, toddler & 5-year-old to have din…

Sure; my point in that example was that his pitch (esp. including his chosen list of interests and potential questions) felt extremely narrow to me; I'm also a white American male and only 10 years older; but the world he seems to be inhabiting (men's fashion! weightlifting!) is not even adjacent to mine.

If we met in a social situation, we could probably find something to talk about; but we'd not be paying either other for that.

Re: Your friends are lying to you. For $10, I wont.

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Post by thelettere »

scottjad wrote: post #207
thelettere wrote: post #191

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I think in this case we are dealing with a discrepancy between what people think they want, and what they actually want. I wouldn't be surprised if a fair number of people try this once, but he might have trouble getting repeat clients and I have concerns about how helpful, outside the most narrow niche cases, this will be. I'm a counselor, and going into the field I naively thought that straightforward evaluative st…

Are there any books that teach this leading/questioning approach that you particularly like/recommend? Non-pop books are fine.

Although basic and lacking a bit in depth, the book I found most helpful when transitioning from confrontation to questioning was "Demystifying Counseling" by Arlene King. It's short, clearly written and jargon-free.

Most therapy manuals are awful though - and so much of my progress since then has been helped along by reading bios or analysis's of the greats in the field, and adapting their methods to match my personality. It's very much an art and not a science - and my progress has been determined as much by my self-knowledge and the strength of the integration between my conception of life and my practice as my knowledge of specific methods of inquiry.

So all that to say I don't have much - although you've motivated me to look around for it. Feel free to drop me a line so I can share when I find something.

Re: Your friends are lying to you. For $10, I wont.

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Post by jtheory »

nzealand wrote: post #177
jtheory wrote: post #116

I, personally, cannot imagine any question to which I would get a more valuable answer from a 28-year-old software engineer in California interested in finance, men's fashion and weightlifting than I would get from my wife, family, friends and peers -- people who know me; whose lives actually overlap with mine in some way. What is "telling it like it is" if you don't share the same context? How likely is it he can pi…

But your friends have been lying to you. About your website/app/resume/outfit. You need to know the truth. How can you afford to not know?

This is really my point. There are probably better sources of truth than "some people I hang out with sometimes".

Those sources vary depending on the subject, but they probably won't be "someone I don't know, from the internet" either, unless he happens to have that specific expertise and you have a common need.

Website/app/resume: for me this just equates to "how is the business doing", and I don't ask friends; this is what data is for. There's a possible conflict of interest here with our CEO (my primary source of truth for financial status), because he wants to motivate the company (and hence generally add a positive spin); but he's also well-aware that transparency & trust are far more important than any temporarily gain from faked positivity.

Outfit: sure, appearances matter in life & work. But I have better sources of truth here as well than "ask a friend"; hello again CEO/founder, for one. We talk about what we're wearing if that's going to be relevant, and (more likely) how we're speaking on phone calls, and what can be better. Think he's honest? Well, he'd be a fool not to be.

But most of the time my wardrobe only matters to the extent that my wife feels I'm appropriately dressed if we're out in public, and she's perfectly capable of pointing it out if I've misjudged. It's just "oh hey, don't forget we're going out to dinner before we come back home tonight", and that works.

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Post by verulito »

jawns wrote: post #4

I can get brutal honesty on Reddit for free. (And polite honesty, also for free, from Dear Abby.)

I'll give him this much. Have you seen /r/rateme? People there are way too supportive. Doesn't seem to matter that every post starts with "give me the brutal truth". That or there's always survivorship bias in those who think she's hot and choose to reply.

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Post by RainSunshine »

floatingatoll wrote: post #212
BorisMelnik wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

everyones gotta start somewhere

I have no objections to RainSunshine's commentary, it's actually quite valuable in the context. I just believe that whatever link they have to the site should be clearly disclosed, if such exists.

I have none. His website looks nice, his business model is sound, and people are talking crap about it simply because they don't personally see a need for it. I felt like defending that.

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Post by RainSunshine »

hnha wrote: post #200
goodoldboys wrote: post #33

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Creator here - no vote manipulation. In fact, I don't actually know anyone who has a hacker news account, believe it or not. Just an intriguing title I suppose?

No vote manipulation but you used another new account 'RainSunshine' to talk sugar about yourself? That was a dumb move.

Don't be ignorant. I am in Canada and this guy is in California. I have never met him, have no link to him in any way, and just found this site like 3 days ago.

Re: Your friends are lying to you. For $10, I wont.

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Post by RainSunshine »

hnha wrote: post #201
RainSunshine wrote: post #118

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Give it a bit of time. He is going to reply personally and probably got dozens of questions. It might take a day to reply to them all.

So, who are you, sockpuppet?

This site doesn't have a way to report troll posts like yours? Shame. Doubt I will make it a habit to visit here.
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