The IDE they demoed looks very interesting on its own—it reminded me of Bret Victor's posts (http://worrydream.com/LearnableProgramming/). Immediate interactive code visualization, quite impressive.
The Swift Programming Language
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#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean the inclusion of Python, seems so random to me It's supposed to be a "mainstream" scripting language. Also, it's an easy way for them to get favorable numbers for their presentation.
Yes. But what has that got to do with writing native apps?
They probably just used python as an example of something most people would know. Its probably the most known scripting language out there so why not use it.
Besides ALL benchmarks are pointless, even when you have the source of the benchmarks and know what they ran on software/hardware wise.
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#213Looks like Recruiters will now be seeking Swift Developers with at least 5+ years of experience.
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#214It seems like the only way to view the programming language documentation is on iBooks on an iOS device? For a programming book, this is ridiculous. Edit: The latest version of OS X does support iBooks. Lets hope you have that.
Yeah, and iBooks on iOS requires iOS 7. If someone figures out how to get a usable standard ebook file out of this please let me know.
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#215https://itunes.apple.com/en/book/swift-programming-language/... (direct link to iBook store). Edit : Changed the link to en. Does anybody have a direct link to the Xcode 6 beta ? Or mirror download link ? Thanks.
Thanks for the direct link!
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#216Still on an Objective-C runtime, so it's hard to see how the performance gains they claim are achievable, but otherwise having an interpreted version should be good for productivity.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but Swift has static typing (with type inference, but still with a strict type on every variable), whereas Objective C has dynamic typing with optional type annotations. Having ubiquitous strong type information available should make it much easier to generate fast code.
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#217So it looks like the language isn't open source and won't target non-Apple runtimes? I'm not trying to troll, I just think that it's a pity that Apple tends to limit the ecosystem and applications of its otherwise-great languages. Building against LLVM ought to make it fairly trivial to make this cross-platform.
Now that Microsoft has been open sourcing so much stuff I was expecting Apple to follow the wave and release Swift as open source too. It's a shame though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer,_Inc._v._Microso....
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#219Does anyone know when the new (beta) Xcode will come out?
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#220Ugh, none of the links work. :( Can't get the ibook, can't view the "guides and reference", can't download xcode 6 beta.