Does anyone have any actual working experience with the new pen/stylus capabilities?
The only interesting part of the surface pro was the Wacom digitizer and they are ditching it.
Pricepoint is more attractive, that is for certain.
Microsoft announces the Surface Pro 3
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#212Small things continue to kill the surface pro acceptance: - The Surface site on the surface site hasn't updated with surface pro 3 info/pricing. The run way for this is long, why isn't the site updated or ready to go? - Accessories are notoriously out of stock. Why are they hard to get? Docking station, keyboards, mice. Fix that. - The dock has 10/100 Ethernet. In 2013-2014? Why? - Updates for firmware and drivers as…
The Surface Store is also not trivial to buy from. I live in a country where Surface Pro isn't sold officially (a
blunder in itself, if you ask me) and I failed to buy from MS Store. I transferred funds to an American friend and they failed too! They even spent half an hour on the phone with useless MS tech support person, who doesn't acknowledge their fault: (it must a fault on be bank's, Paypal's site, but not MS') I gave up and bought on Amazon; still waiting for shipment (the issue with a particular seller).
I have mixed feelings with regard to this new release. I didn't expect MS to announce it that soon and it's kinda frustrating to have a new model be announced while you are still waiting for the previous one, but I'm not sure I would like the newer, larger form-factor, digitizer, design and color better. I own a 12" ThinkPad now, and I want to try switching to Surface in part because it is smaller, which ThinkPad is refusing to be over the years. Would it kill MS to make a newer, smaller, variant, along with the larger one? OTOH, I kinda expected MS to back away from what good it came up with, with their tablet. Microsoft is not known for sticking to their ingenious innovations, like Lenovo and Sony and unlike Apple.
Re: Microsoft announces the Surface Pro 3
#213Small things continue to kill the surface pro acceptance: - The Surface site on the surface site hasn't updated with surface pro 3 info/pricing. The run way for this is long, why isn't the site updated or ready to go? - Accessories are notoriously out of stock. Why are they hard to get? Docking station, keyboards, mice. Fix that. - The dock has 10/100 Ethernet. In 2013-2014? Why? - Updates for firmware and drivers as…
>The run way for this is long, why isn't the site updated or ready to go? I don't think that's a big problem. > The dock has 10/100 Ethernet. In 2013-2014? Why? Dog slow as well, I suspect it's USB! > Updates for firmware and drivers assume enterprise infrastructure. Not my experience at all, windows update did all my driver updates and at least one firmware update too. > The track pad on the type/touch cover is flak…
> Dog slow as well, I suspect it's USB!
What, the Ethernet doesn't give full 100 Mbps throughput?
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#214It's nice but it must suck when faced by the behemoth that is the iPad.
The differentiator is the OS. One of them is for play, the other is for productivity. Comparing full Windows 8.1 to iOS is Apples to Oranges.
Keep telling yourself that. Meanwhile, back here in reality, iOS dominates the enterprise:
http://media.www1.good.com/documents/rpt-mobility-index-q413...
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#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
While it's great to see Microsoft innovating like this and pushing their product aggressively forward, it must really chafe with their OEM community. Why would you buy some clunky classic notebook when you can get a Surface 3 for virtually the same price? It's basically impossible for OEMs to compete when Microsoft can include Windows for free and they have to pay a premium to bundle it.
As far as I can tell the surface pro 3 is still not lap friendly, which makes it a no go for my working preferences (a sofa chair at Starbucks sans table). I'm interested in what the OEMS will produce, if only I could get a true convertible with hi dpi + decent stylus support! I would buy that (yoga pro 2 is tempting, but no stylus + crappy trackpad...). Competition is good (and I say that as an MS employee).
>As far as I can tell the surface pro 3 is still not lap friendly
Huh? Din't they demonstrate that on the video? he was using it on his lap at multiple angles and including his legs stretched. If they missed that part watch it here[1]. It starts around 41 minute mark.
[1] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/press/2014/may14/05-20w...
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#217Which CPUs are there in Surface Pro 3?
I was sure the Broadwell Microsoft won't release them for another half a year, because Broadwell CPUs are not announced yet and are expected early next year, or for Christmas season at best.
I wonder whether they are the same Haswell CPUs as in SP2, or did MS get a very special treatment from Intel for Broadwell CPUs?
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#218Is this an x86 or ARM cpu?
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#219That's a really nice piece of hardware. I've used MacBook Airs since 2010, but the Surface 3 looks to be strictly dominating in the hardware department. Unfortunately, I don't think Microsoft will convert many OS X devs unless they make some changes to their software. One of the advantages of OS X is that it's a Unix, and lots of Unix software runs on it. It's not hard to compile tools such as nmap, Vim, or steam loc…
I'm rooting for MS. My (not so serious) test for windows is simple: the day I can resize dos command prompt as easily as terminal windows on linux/osx is the day Microsoft I need to seriously consider going back to windows :)
you can use powershell ISE. you can make the terminal full screen with no issue
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#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
I completely agree about the keyboard cover. That accessory is critical to the experience of using the device. Without it the Surface is an oversized tablet with a diminutive app store (yes, I know that it is a lot better than it used to be). The ability to switch it into "laptop-mode" is the key selling point, and has appeared in every demonstration of the device I've ever seen. It should be included, and they need…
Is it really laptop mode though, or does the surface pro 3 still require a table to use effectively? I might buy this if I could actually use it well on my lap!
My Pro2 is ok on the lap, but not brilliant. It's the fact that the keyboard isn't rigidly attached to the screen which makes it feel unstable. Although it's perfectly satisfactory to type, the experience isn't as good as with a netbook or MBP11.