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2048, success and me

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Re: 2048, success and me

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Post by conanbatt »

genofon wrote: post #159
bicknergseng wrote: post #149

Threes hardly came up with this combination game idea. I know for certain Triple Town [1] has basically the same gameplay (except you drop instead of swipe, some extra cutesy elements) and is from 2011, and I highly doubt it originated the concept or gameplay. To use their example, I feel like Asher Vollmer and Greg Wohlwend created Dr. Mario and not Tetris, and were shocked when people started playing other Tetris k…

Totally agree, I read the letter from three and I've found it really annoying, maybe they wrote that for marketing.. I understand how they can feel but I don't understand how can someone have the courage to say that their game is better.. Million of people choose something else that's a pretty clear sign

They made a game with lots of effort in design, then put a price tag on it to make money off of it. Then someone else clones it makes it free. The pretty clear sign is that free stuff propagates way faster than paid stuff. Which is not a surprise at all.

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Post by cicatrix1 »

habosa wrote: post #57

gabrielecirulli's success has been one of my favorite moments I've witnessed on HN. Congratulations to him, it was/is an amazing phenomenon. I also think we can take a few important lessons here to take the tech world a little more out of the shadows. 1) As a few have said, show your friends the source code and say "if you could learn to do this, you could have made 2048". It's not too intimidating of a codebase and…

Yes, lets all keep praising blatant idea theft by someone who displayed here almost 0 creative talent. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

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Post by cicatrix1 »

This is such a dumb humble brag. You stole a fucking idea, added very little in making a clone. You did it for fun on a lark, but it became extremely popular. Half of what's written in this piece is such egotistical bullshit I could hardly get through it.

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Post by danoprey »

frogpelt wrote: post #117
atmosx wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> [...]we need to remember that (hubris aside) what we do everyday, even if it's just a side project we did for fun one evening, has the potential to change the world in an instant[...] Really? So '2048' changed the world. I have this feeling that developers change the world more often than Cartoon/TV-heros save thew world these days. How many apps away from world peace?! ps. Developers are the only group of people w…

When 23 million people are talking about your little weekend project, you have changed the world. Maybe your definition of 'change the world' is too stringent. Squeezable ketchup bottles changed the world too. Instead of being so uptight about how people use the phrase why you don't you start trying to create your own impact?

Personally, and of course you can define it however you want, I think something that "changes the world" needs to be both significant and lasting. Getting people to play one game instead of another for a few months isn't either. Squeezable ketchup bottles are much closer.

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Post by dang »

epo wrote: post #204
baddox wrote: post #167

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I wasn't sure, but I thought that there was an even older game that was extremely similar to 2048 and Threes. I remember people got upset when the Threes developers accused 2048 of cloning them [0], because they thought Threes was itself a clone of something earlier. [0] http://asherv.com/threes/threemails/#letter

You thought? Just not very hard, clearly.

Please don't be rude in Hacker News comments.

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Post by shairosen »

diziet wrote: post #124

Quick thing -- you should title your iOS app something like '2048 - The Original Version', not '2048 - by Gabriele Cirulli'

And here is some design feedback according to Wired: "Design Is Why 2048 Sucks, and Threes Is a Masterpiece" http://www.wired.com/2014/05/threes-game-design

Re: 2048, success and me

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Post by robomartin »

This comment might not be the most popular but I happen to think it is right on point.

At twenty years of age this kid got a chance of a lifetime and blew it. This is tantamount to getting a winning lottery ticket and throwing it in the trash KNOWING that it is a winning ticket.

I get all the altruistic stuff. I do. I also get that business and innovation is and has always been about doing it different, better and faster than the other guy.

There's nothing ethical about recognizing the opportunity of a lifetime and ignoring it out of a really questionable sense of duty. This is some really faulty decision making.

Let me put it in more simple terms: A good person can do a lot more good with money than without. Period. End of story.

This can take many forms. If he felt so strongly about owing to prior projects he could have offered to share in his new-found fortune in some equitable way. If he really didn't want a pile of money he could have taken as much as he felt he needed and donated the rest to worthy causes. Perhaps support FOSS efforts, help entrepreneurs in his country, launch an incubator, etc., etc., etc.

I know people who are currently relying on the benevolence of friends to have a place to sleep. I know one person who is probably within a couple of months of seeing his last dollar go through his hands.

The idea that someone is dealt a hand like this one and he absolutely blows it out of some juvenile mental fabrication takes on a very different context when you see people who's lives could be changed in massive ways with just a few hundred to a couple of thousand dollars per month. At some level I could see a person not taking advantage of such an opportunity as incredibly naive and selfish. Don't do it for you, do it to help others. What could be better than that?

Here's my back. Ready for the arrows.

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Post by CGudapati »

clarky07 wrote: post #209
mackwic wrote: post #186

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-1: Your comment is aggressive and lacks empathy. Morevoer, you should interrest yourself in the free software movement and understand the motivations of the people behind. Books like "Richard Stallman and the free software revolution" might interrest you ( https://www.google.com/url?q=https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/fa... )

Thanks I know what the free software movement is. Stallman I mostly find to be a jerk. On Steve Jobs death: As Chicago Mayor Harold Washington said of the corrupt former Mayor Daley, "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone." I'm sorry, but that is uncalled for. Free software might be a noble goal, but as someone who makes software for a living I can't imagine why. Yes I want to be able to run whatever I want…

Calling Stallman a jerk is definitely uncalled for. I personally think he is the epitome of everything that is right with the Computer Science. It is your prerogative to distribute the software however you like. Remember that Stallman created something which most of us can only sapire about.
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