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Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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Post by pnathan »

ronaldx wrote: post #196
pnathan wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not yegg, but if you store a database of queries, along with frequencies, you can do a prefix match on what's already in the search box and return that. I'm speculating that DDG does something that. It doesn't take any PII to do that unless the query itself includes PII. E.g., "websites operated by paul nathan" is pretty PII. :)

Saving - and now seemingly publishing - search queries is saving and publishing PII. http://donttrack.us directly acknowledges that search queries can be used to personally identify individuals. I therefore understood from the later statement on that site, "[ddg doesn't] store any personal information at all", that this would include search queries: ddg almost literally advertises itself on the fact that it doesn't s…

I'm not prepared to defend DDG in depth, as I'm not a representative. Nor is my research area inferring PII.

But I want to point out that doing a standard ddg search gives me `https://duckduckgo.com/?q=seattle` , which is a GET command, visible across the entire network as it percolates through, unencrypted.

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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Post by CallYouOut »

yegg wrote: post #105
fsck--off wrote: post #61

I use DuckDuckGo as my primary search engine and have had a positive experience using it. This redesign incorporates two of the worst design trends today: very low contrast text and gratuitously, obnoxiously large fixed headers. I dislike fixed headers on any non-phone/tablet UI because almost all laptop and desktop screens are widescreen. Fixed position elements on the sides of the screen make much more sense, altho…

Thanks for the feedback! Our current version also has a fixed header, and that can be turned off in the settings, which we plan to make work in this next version as well. Noted on contrast. We will look into it more -- that's exactly the kind of feedback we were hoping to get.

Totally agree with the parent. I'd also love it if it took advantage of more than 25% of the width of my 30" desktop display.

And: thanks for listening to your users!

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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Post by RogerL »

3rd3 wrote: post #10
yegg wrote: post #2

Hi all, thanks for checking it out and we're looking forward to your feedback! This next version of DuckDuckGo is in public beta. Here's the post about it I just made: https://duck.co/forum/thread/5726/duckduckgo-reimagined-and-... There are still a lot known issues that we're still working through before we can make the transition. I'm sure this thread will uncover more :)

It looks absolutely beautiful! That really puts the interface of the Google search in a tight spot. Only one remark: While I like the effect that the full URL shows up when the mouse is above a search entry I would personally prefer to see the full URL all the time. I would be very happy if you could add an option to change that.

Agreed. For example, search for 'anaconda python'. In google, the second result is very obviously the download page for anaconda. In DDG? Good luck discovering that. Just one example that popped immediately to mind.

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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Post by sdegutis »

fsck--off wrote: post #61

I use DuckDuckGo as my primary search engine and have had a positive experience using it. This redesign incorporates two of the worst design trends today: very low contrast text and gratuitously, obnoxiously large fixed headers. I dislike fixed headers on any non-phone/tablet UI because almost all laptop and desktop screens are widescreen. Fixed position elements on the sides of the screen make much more sense, altho…

I disagree, the new redesign is beautiful!!

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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Post by yetfeo »

One thing that would be nice to fix in the new interface:

If I use the DDG TOR hidden service, 3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion, do a search and click on a search result the link goes via a DDG redirect from r.duckduckgo.com. This should be using the hidden service domain, not the duckduckgo.com domain. As it is the redirect goes over a tor exit node rather than directly via the hidden service.

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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Post by yetfeo »

yegg wrote: post #116
ancarda wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm using Firefox. I see a lot of r.duckduckgo.com entries in my history. Edit: I can't replicate in Chrome or Safari but if I change my user-agent in Safari, it begins hijacking my URLs. The JavaScript is obfuscated so it's hard to tell if it's actually checking for Firefox or not. The function it calls is DDG.get_http_redirect

You can read more about that here: https://duck.co/blog/https-on-by-default It has no privacy impact since we do not store or collect personal information.

As I mention in a previous comment, if you are using the TOR hidden service (3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion/) the redirect goes over a TOR exit node without https. Ideally it should use the hidden service so no exit node is involved, or at the least use HTTPS.

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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Post by dangrossman »

pnathan wrote: post #211
ronaldx wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saving - and now seemingly publishing - search queries is saving and publishing PII. http://donttrack.us directly acknowledges that search queries can be used to personally identify individuals. I therefore understood from the later statement on that site, "[ddg doesn't] store any personal information at all", that this would include search queries: ddg almost literally advertises itself on the fact that it doesn't s…

I'm not prepared to defend DDG in depth, as I'm not a representative. Nor is my research area inferring PII. But I want to point out that doing a standard ddg search gives me ` https://duckduckgo.com/?q=seattle` , which is a GET command, visible across the entire network as it percolates through, unencrypted.

That's a secure URL. HTTP requests and responses are encrypted, and nobody other than you and the server know what they contain. Nobody between you on the network can tell what URLs you're accessing over SSL.

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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Post by NamTaf »

Please make sure the hamburger menu button on the right and the close X button inside the menu are centred (edit: with respect to one another) - currently, the close button shifts down and left from the position of the hamburger button. Keeping it in the one spot is one of those polish things that instantly stands out to me.

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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Post by andreasvc »

sergiotapia wrote: post #21

Well kudos on letting my right click and copy URL from search results! I hate how Google insists on using https://www.google.com.bo/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=we... - yeah Google, totally makes sense. Godspeed duckduckgo!

This fixes such links: https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/clean-links/

There's probably something similar for Chrome as well.

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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Post by dpcan »

yegg wrote: post #2

Hi all, thanks for checking it out and we're looking forward to your feedback! This next version of DuckDuckGo is in public beta. Here's the post about it I just made: https://duck.co/forum/thread/5726/duckduckgo-reimagined-and-... There are still a lot known issues that we're still working through before we can make the transition. I'm sure this thread will uncover more :)

The Install in Chrome thing doesn't appear to work. Won't allow me to save even when the Keyword field is empty. Not sure if that's a Chrome thing or DDG thing.

EDIT:

Sorry, it looks like it installed the first time. I tried to do a search. It kept using Google. So I thought it didn't install. I tried again. The keyword had already been installed, so it didn't work. Turned out it was already installed and I had to manually set it as my search provider.

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