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Re: The future of Fiber

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Post by Rhapso »

wil421 wrote: post #130

Nice try Google, I was really happy about Atlanta until I saw the cities listed. Most of the cities they listed are in very sketchy areas that probably dont even know the difference between their regular connection and a faster fiber connection. Avondale Estates - not so nice Brookhaven - will probably benefit College Park - crime area, could care less about fiber Decatur - some areas will benefit East Point - crime…

You sound like one of those people in the suburbs stunting Atlanta's public transit because it would bring in more black people. The areas you are describing are not high crime areas, just poor.

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Post by robryan »

Would love to see Google, or anyone, come shake up the Australian market. We are still beholden to low bandwidth, almost non existent upload and data usage caps.

We also have a national broadband network that most people will never see due to the politics played by the current government.

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Post by lifeformed »

BlackDeath3 wrote: post #210
lifeformed wrote: post #197

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Sometimes its fun. It's a different situation for everyone. As a young person with no obligations, I love working late into the night on big crunches, followed by some slower, relaxing weeks.

Your music is awesome :)

Thanks! :)

Re: The future of Fiber

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Post by wil421 »

Rhapso wrote: post #211
wil421 wrote: post #130

Nice try Google, I was really happy about Atlanta until I saw the cities listed. Most of the cities they listed are in very sketchy areas that probably dont even know the difference between their regular connection and a faster fiber connection. Avondale Estates - not so nice Brookhaven - will probably benefit College Park - crime area, could care less about fiber Decatur - some areas will benefit East Point - crime…

You sound like one of those people in the suburbs stunting Atlanta's public transit because it would bring in more black people. The areas you are describing are not high crime areas, just poor.

No I want Marta just like I want my fiber. Accessible anywhere in and outside the perimeter.

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Post by foobarqux »

rayiner wrote: post #205
foobarqux wrote: post #187

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Nation-wide averages tell a story that no one is interested in. Do you have data on densely populated coastal states? I want to compare speed and speed/Mbps to areas like Warsaw and Stockholm with high density cities in the US.

The problem with drilling deeper is that America is organized quite differently than European countries. It is typical for a European city like Stockholm or London for 40-60% of the people in a metro area to live in the denser, core city. In the U.S., that number is more typically 10-20%. Moreover, because of historical reasons, the dense inner cities in the U.S. that are most geographically amenable to building out…

Hey thanks for the link.

I would love to test all your hypotheses, I'm skeptical. My impression is that, even if you compare dense high-income areas (Manhattan, SFBay), many other countries are still coming out on top. For instance, Warsaw (!) metro area: 631.4/km2, Manhattan: 27,227.1/km2. I don't have the numbers but income is much higher in Manhattan.

Wikipedia tells me I can get 60mbit/s down for under 25 USD in Warsaw and I think that is uncapped. I don't believe any comparable deal exists for Manhattan. SFBay is similar.

Re: The future of Fiber

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Post by kalleboo »

thedufer wrote: post #86
kalleboo wrote: post #62

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That sounds strange to me. I live in Sweden and went apartment-hunting last year. Not one of the apartments I looked at was without fiber (technically, ethernet in the apartments, fiber to the building). Including buildings that pre-date WW1. They all had pre-existing cable and DSL as well. If there's a will, there's a way. I guess in the US there just isn't much of a will yet.

Vacancies in NYC are incredibly low, so a landlord doesn't gain much by being able to advertise fiber internet. This, added to the expense of wiring the old buildings, means that its not a worthwhile investment.

> Vacancies in NYC are incredibly low

Same in Sweden. Often you need to be on a waiting list for 2+ years to get an rental contract in a large city in Sweden (longer in Stockholm[0]). The impatient among us flit around on 6-month second hand rentals. Or you buy an apartment with an untenable loan and hope the bubble keeps inflating...

[0]The wait is currently on average 7 years in Stockholm municipality. 15 years if you want a centrally-located apartment. http://www.svd.se/nyheter/stockholm/lagenheten-ar-din-om-att...

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