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Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by foley »

maaarghk wrote: post #150
mpclark wrote: post #138

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Not quite, but everyone and his brother will be able to start issuing NFC 'cards' that work with existing contactless terminals. Think PayPal, Square, your favourite loyalty programmes etc etc. And there's no need to negotiate/buy access to secure elements, or get involved with TSMs etc -- as long as the issuer looks after its own security. This is going to blow NFC wide open :)

Hey does this mean that if a Bitcoin exchange gets a hold of an AID then they could write an app that would let me use my phone to pay with bitcoin at an existing contactless terminal? Like, apps can emulate contactless cards, but you can't necessarily upload existing cards you mean? Sorry, I just don't quite "get" it yet I think :P

BitPlastic[1] is a about as close as you can get right now. I have been working for the past year on a prototype Bitcoin smart-card compatible with existing contact less terminals, I've gone this route because I am not particularly comfortable with storing my private key on my phone.

Prototype works, but lets just say it needs a lot more work. Not sure whether to continue with, for anything like this to have any adoption by retailers the entire Bitcoin community needs to get behind one standard. That is the Bitcoin Payment Protocol[2] which is incompatible with my approach. The Bitcoin Payment Protocol will with the new Android 4.4 changes.

1. https://bitplastic.com/ 2. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BIP_0070

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by laggyluke »

zachlatta wrote: post #148
Spittie wrote: post #136

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Those are mine: * Firefox Sync. As I use Firefox on my desktop, it's nice to keep them synched. * Addons. I know this might sound stupid on a phone, but having lastpass autofill your passwords on-the-go is awesome. * Interface. I really like the Firefox Mobile UI, but I hate the Chrome (Tablet, I browse on a Nexus 7) Mobile UI. Chrome get really bad with 3 or 4 tabs, making it really hard to switch tabs, and really e…

Having LastPass auto-fill passwords on my phone is indeed awesome. Scrolling feels a little weird on my Nexus 4 though.

Are you always signed into LastPass on your phone?

I've got a (simple) screen lock password + full encryption, but I'm still a bit paranoid to keep LastPass signed in. Instead, I have to type my 20+ character passphrase each time I have to use LastPass on my phone, which is frustrating, but not as frustrating as losing all my accounts together with my phone.

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by zobzu »

klausa wrote: post #37
eigenvector wrote: post #9

Here's the Android release notes: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html Highlights: * WebView is now based on Chromium * KSM and zRAM integrated into stock kernel * Public SMS framework * Printing framework * Storage access framework

>WebView is now based on Chromium Does that mean that there will no more be stock 'Browser' app? I refuse to use Chrome on Android because of brain-dead, non-disablable 'font-boosting' that makes (among many others) Hacker News absolutely unusable. If that means that the same engine is the only one officially supported on 4.4 forwards, then that's really sad and unfortunate.

ironically firefox is probably the best android browser right now. why not just use that?

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by 72deluxe »

kevincrane wrote: post #141
MoosePlissken wrote: post #139

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Thanks for the link. That's really a shame considering they titled the post "Android for all" and made a big deal out of Kit Kat's small memory foot print. Memory has been pretty tight on my Galaxy Nexus, those optimizations would have been nice. I guess I'll have to wait for the modding community to get it working.

"Android for most"

"Android for some"

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by kolistivra »

atomi wrote: post #184
klausa wrote: post #37

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>WebView is now based on Chromium Does that mean that there will no more be stock 'Browser' app? I refuse to use Chrome on Android because of brain-dead, non-disablable 'font-boosting' that makes (among many others) Hacker News absolutely unusable. If that means that the same engine is the only one officially supported on 4.4 forwards, then that's really sad and unfortunate.

On the subject of Chrome on Android, why can't we have a permanent desktop view option?

I'm not sure you mean exactly this but, it's added recently: https://developers.google.com/chrome/mobile/docs/installtoho...

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

corresation wrote: post #61
eigenvector wrote: post #9

Here's the Android release notes: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html Highlights: * WebView is now based on Chromium * KSM and zRAM integrated into stock kernel * Public SMS framework * Printing framework * Storage access framework

"Android 4.4 introduces platform support for hardware sensor batching, a new optimization that can dramatically reduce power consumed by ongoing sensor activities." This sounds remarkably similar to the M7. This functionality of Android 4.4 requires hardware support, which initially is only provided by the Nexus 5. It allows for continuous sensor measurements, only waking the application processor when it delivers a…

Or Motorola (owned by Google)'s X8, which was released before the M7.

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

bsimpson wrote: post #5

I'm sad that the Galaxy Nexus isn't supported. My phone has increasingly been running out of RAM lately for reasons I don't understand - hearing Google boast about how KitKat has been optimized for memory had me hoping that it would support more than just the latest-greatest.

You should get at least some of the memory benefits, as they'll be supplied in apps or play services or in better profiling tools for 3rd parties.

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by alimbada »

kelnos wrote: post #185
samspenc wrote: post #168

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"Android for all ... unless you have a Google phone that's older than 18 months."

... which has been Google's stated policy for quite some time now, so I'm not sure why you feel the need to be sarcastic about it.

Just because it's a stated policy doesn't make it a justified policy or even a good policy. To reiterate what's already been said in other comments here... iPhone 4S, iOS7, etc. etc.
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