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This hacker might seem shady, but throwing him in jail is bad for everyone

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Re: This hacker might seem shady, but throwing him in jail is bad for everyone

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Kudos to the WP for ongoing coverage of this case. There are important issues being litigated here that could affect everyone, and I'd argue they are worth discussing without regard to this particular defendant and the sheer stupidity of his actions. However, I find WP's use of Poulson's activities as an example of "legitimate" automated HTML retrieval ("scraping") to be an odd one. It seems an awkward a comparison t…

>> The irony of this has always intrigued me: Google may crawl your servers, but under Google's policies, you may not crawl Google's servers. It looks like some of their site can be crawled and some not, that's how robots.txt has worked for a long time: http://www.google.com/robots.txt

And search results (the data they have obtained via crawling others' sites) is not among the data that can be crawled.

What are you suggesting?

Re: This hacker might seem shady, but throwing him in jail is bad for everyone

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That's not a crime, which is why I asked you to point out the appropriate legal code. You are now considered a troll. Have a nice day.

Actually it is. He was found guilty.

Oh, I see the problem now; you have no conception of how the law works and no inclination to learn it.

Re: This hacker might seem shady, but throwing him in jail is bad for everyone

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> Then, it seems, a good solution to solve the problem is to have server owner to declare in advance what are intended use and what's not. You mean like the Terms of Use for the AT&T website? http://www.att.com/gen/general?pid=11561#14

Wait: so before accessing a website I have to go read its terms of use? What if I set up a website, put a clause saying "you agree to pay $50/page view" in there, and hid it away. Google crawlers will find my site in no time, and then I can start raking the dollars in, right?

No: such a clause wouldn't be enforceable in that context.
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