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Re: Mega has launched

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The Olympic motto, which is virtually identical, pre-dates Daft Punk.

You know, you could've just told us instead of making us look it up :) >The Olympic motto is "Citius, Altius, Fortius." These three Latin words mean "Swifter, Higher, Stronger."

Sorry, I should have thought to state it. But I have usually seen it translated as "Faster, Higher, Stronger"

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What do you mean by "ok"? Morally ok? That is subject to opinion. I don't have a problem with them now, and I never did. Legally immune? They very well could be. Certainly any action against them is going to be much harder this time, if only because a bunch of people in New Zealand are still pissed about what happened last time without the revisions that were made. If their system works as they claim, and renders the…

As soon as a file goes public and anybody can get it, then it seems to me irrelevant that its encrypted on mega servers. They'll have to respond to takedown requests because the contents are known. And if mega is de-duping content then that could technically eliminate "whack a mole" for the copyright holders (except for people re-encoding the file and re-uploading). I had heard in the past that mega would only take d…

If they did it correctly then they would keep a reference count to that the stuff only gets deleted when the last reference to it gets deleted.

It would kind of function like hard links on linux file systems.

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post #205

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What do you mean by "ok"? Morally ok? That is subject to opinion. I don't have a problem with them now, and I never did. Legally immune? They very well could be. Certainly any action against them is going to be much harder this time, if only because a bunch of people in New Zealand are still pissed about what happened last time without the revisions that were made. If their system works as they claim, and renders the…

However you feel about copyright, profitting off of the distribution of other peoples work, without their permission, is not something that should be encouraged or tolerated.

What, in the same way that manufacturing syringes that will be used to mainline illegal narcotics should not be "encouraged or tolerated"?

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post #205

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What do you mean by "ok"? Morally ok? That is subject to opinion. I don't have a problem with them now, and I never did. Legally immune? They very well could be. Certainly any action against them is going to be much harder this time, if only because a bunch of people in New Zealand are still pissed about what happened last time without the revisions that were made. If their system works as they claim, and renders the…

However you feel about copyright, profitting off of the distribution of other peoples work, without their permission, is not something that should be encouraged or tolerated.

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I just found a weird things on they ToS [1] ... 8. Our service may automatically delete a piece of data you upload or give someone else access to where it determines that that data is an exact duplicate of original data already on our service. In that case, you will access that original data. Duplicate check, I get that. But, how do they do it? They say the files are encrypted on the browser, so if I upload file X an…

Here's one solution: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2461713

However given a file Mega would be able to tell whether they stored that file, eliminating the plausible deniability they're aiming for.

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According to the help page, no keys (except the public key) ever leave the client [1]. [1] https://mega.co.nz/#help_security EDIT: The senario in the posts above sound more likely. The exact text of the help is "No usable encryption keys ever leave the client computers (with the exception of RSA public keys)." So they probably store an encrypted version of the keys server side.

In that case if I log in with a different browser, how do I access my stuff? How do other people access my stuff? Doesn't work...

Ok, just my guess, not sure if that's what they do.

They can store the encrypted key on their server and send the encrypted key to the client whenever the client requests it. The client decrypts the key locally and use the decrypted key to decrypt the data.

With this scheme, the user can use a client on any machine to download his encrypted key and use it locally.

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post #205

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However you feel about copyright, profitting off of the distribution of other peoples work, without their permission, is not something that should be encouraged or tolerated.

What, in the same way that manufacturing syringes that will be used to mainline illegal narcotics should not be "encouraged or tolerated"?

It takes some twisted logic to think thats a valid analogy. Dropbox is a perfectly valid filehosting service because they take reasonable measures to prevent copyright infringement. Megaupload(and mega) is not, because it's run by a person who has no real interest in preventing copyright infringement, and has shown that he's more than willing to profit off it, while he pretends that he doesn't know it's occurring or can't prevent it.

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Reading the comments about de-duping,I think one can identify a very attractive monetisation path for mega. The largest percentage of traffic mega achieves, which is largely supported by the huge free space, the biggest the incentive for ISPs to resort to a service from mega for de-duping and caching mega traffic. It would not be unexpected if a "mega appliance" comes up in a few months for "distributed", high-performance mega usage. I do not remember the statistics exactly, but megaupload used to have a significant percentage of global traffic. Albeit, anyone could cache that traffic. Now, mega holds the keys to that. Some strategic and gradual approach is required, though, before ISPs take notice of that and pro-actively degrade mega's services (the other article about Google paying Orange for preferential QoS is relevant) before it gets the required momentum. Just a thought. What do you think? Is mega really holding a lock on this kind of information?

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What do you mean by "ok"? Morally ok? That is subject to opinion. I don't have a problem with them now, and I never did. Legally immune? They very well could be. Certainly any action against them is going to be much harder this time, if only because a bunch of people in New Zealand are still pissed about what happened last time without the revisions that were made. If their system works as they claim, and renders the…

As soon as a file goes public and anybody can get it, then it seems to me irrelevant that its encrypted on mega servers. They'll have to respond to takedown requests because the contents are known. And if mega is de-duping content then that could technically eliminate "whack a mole" for the copyright holders (except for people re-encoding the file and re-uploading). I had heard in the past that mega would only take d…

> As soon as a file goes public

This is the important bit. Files can be shared between private groups, using Mega as an intermediary, without them ever becoming indexed on the public web. Previously, files shared in this manner could still be a target of a takedown, because Megaupload would know they had them, even if nobody else did. Now Mega can make a stronger guarantee about keeping this kind of sharing "safe", because they have no idea whether they're hosting this kind of file or not.

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SSL Poor error, cannot connect to server. Is it down, or is my ISP blocking the SSL certificates so I cannot use it? I am using Google Chrome. I assume the site was DDOS'ed or failed under heavy bandwidth.

I had to type the url exactly like this:

http://mega.co.nz/

Other links just failed for me. They definitely messed something up. Or I am missing something central here.

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