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Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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These kinds of updates always have this romantic scenario of someone having Claude develop a presentation or something on their way to work between multiple devices, which actually feels a little sad and does not align with what happens in my life at all.

This is a nightmare scenario to me. "Claude, prepare me a presentation on XYZ." I get to work, go straight to the meeting room, and pull up what it made to present. It's barely coherent nonsense. Lots of irrelevant details, buzz words, wrong charts or confusing phrasing. Obviously LLM output. I read it out. When I'm done, I get a question about one of Claude's incorrectly inferred details. The shame instantly kills m…

That is incredibly frustrating for a coworker to do that. Even if you do use an LLM to generate all the slides it is your job as a presenter to go through and make edits and actually practice the presentation.

If you are just presenting it for the first time after seeing it you are going to just be reading off the slides, which is a waste of everyones time.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Most normal users have no idea whether to choose chat or cowork. This makes sense for 95% of customers.

Exactly, a change like this will always be abhorrent to the 5% of technical users (aka this forum), and a net gain for the other 95%

The 5% of technical users should not bear the brunt of the technical ineptitude of others.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Good to see AI providers finally starts understanding how bad was the user experience. This is not just a Claude issue but same issue exists in ChatGPT. While it is in the right direction, there is more to be done. I personally think that they should separate Chat and Coding into two separate apps. Both are completely different use-cases. As a developer, I have need for both but I don't like them in the same app. For example, I consider my chats as knowledge base like Obsidian that I want to keep it organized and browse in the future. On the other hand, once I done a coding task, I don't really need that chat anymore. Having coding tasks in the app feel like polluting my regular chats. This frustration led me build my own Chat-only App https://www.vinaa.ai/ where I keep my regular chats in one place organised into projects and folders incl. the ability to auto-organise chats. App is still in early days and I am experimenting a lot to make it a real AI knowledgebase.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then a week later: "Paul Graham announces a 100000$/month high priority access plan to the HackerNews via YC API." :)

YC already announced something along these lines. re: https://www.ycombinator.com/early-access

Oh my... I should be more careful in my predictions :)

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Hi, this is my team! Happy to answer any questions. There's a lot in this launch, but the core idea is to simplify the product while giving users access to more capabilities. You no longer need to know ahead of time how much work a conversation might involve. If you're at your computer, Claude can use your local files and apps. If you close your laptop, Claude can keep working on its own computer. This launch also le…

I have a question about project memory. Last time I tried using Claude to organise my chats into Projects, it turned them into isolated silos. I asked a different chat to refer to what we'd discussed in the other chat, and it said it wasn't allowed to access it.

This was pretty frustrating. By trying to organise my chats, I actively made them worse. ChatGPT at least gives you the option to have either open or closed memory. Is this being considered?

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

#216

Most normal users have no idea whether to choose chat or cowork. This makes sense for 95% of customers.

Exactly, a change like this will always be abhorrent to the 5% of technical users (aka this forum), and a net gain for the other 95%

I am a technical user and I literally last week was trying to work out what the difference between ChatGPT Chat and Work was and couldn't figure it out (other than they bill you differently)

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" Don't be snarky. " " Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

My point with above is to criticize their strategy, I have been losing faith on Anthropic and feeling like they are throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks in a more desperate fashion rather than careful one. This sort of decision to me, alongside all their other initiatives recently with shipping agentic PaaS rather than enabling others to build with their tools has been a miss on thoughtful leadership. S…

Thanks and yes, there's often a sensible HN comment behind posts like the one I was replying to.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

#218
1) If you want to make Claude usable how about addressing the fact that OpenAI 20x lasts all day on Astra, yet Claude 20x pips out in 20 mins of agentic with Fable 5.1, which is totally useless.

And unlike Sol: Opus like yoda, anything for unusable he is.

2) The first AI company to reduce their token pricing such that Astra/Fable can run for less than $150/day from credits would see a 5x usage increase and 20x spend increase from me. It’s currently around $500 for Astra and $5000 for Claude.

3) They seem to recently have addressed the fact that their safeguards were OTT so kudos to them for realising and now Fable is usable for wire and memory level programming.

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