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Post by throwaway173738 » Tue, Sep 15, 2026, 4:35 AM UTC

bix6 wrote: post #169

carefree-bob wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"with parity in delivery time, product quality, returns experience, etc." How would the user know that? Many sites, including Amazon, make their bones providing decent quality at a lower cost, and then once they build up their market they start reducing the features and raising the costs. Amazon tends to be more expensive nowadays and suffers from product quality issues. It is super easy to use and has a good return…

Still can’t beat the delivery time though. Their logistics network is insane.

Not really. They’re a day or more late most of the time in the major metro where I live. Usually only when I’m relying on them.

Re: Amazon vs. Perplexity – U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit

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Post by dansquizsoft » Tue, Sep 15, 2026, 5:01 AM UTC

aizk wrote: post #52

gz5 wrote: post #16

Can't comment on the legal basis in the eyes of CFAA or DAFA, but from a business perspective AI is a legit threat to Amazon because headless Amazon makes it more difficult for Amazon to sell ads, which is a large part of their revenue. Meaning, even if merchants would have a difficult time moving from Amazon to an AI native version of Amazon, this is still a threat.

I was chatting about something similar to this with coworkers. When the doordash cli got announced I thought "Wow, that's amazing!" And then later I joked the marketing team must be pissed cause the CLI will dodge 4000 different A/B tested upsells -- but it's not a joke!

Cute of you to think a LLM won't be influenced by upsells...

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Post by com2kid » Tue, Sep 15, 2026, 5:17 AM UTC

gz5 wrote: post #16

Can't comment on the legal basis in the eyes of CFAA or DAFA, but from a business perspective AI is a legit threat to Amazon because headless Amazon makes it more difficult for Amazon to sell ads, which is a large part of their revenue. Meaning, even if merchants would have a difficult time moving from Amazon to an AI native version of Amazon, this is still a threat.

In summary - if a perfect AI is made that orders the ideal product for someone, the best mix of price, performance, and reliability, then Amazon will be screwed because they make more money on ads than by selling people the exactly what people want/need.

As a brief reminder to readers at home, in a theoretically perfect free market, profit trends towards 0 as competition increases.

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Post by CTDOCodebases » Tue, Sep 15, 2026, 5:38 AM UTC

petilon wrote: post #145

gz5 wrote: post #16

Can't comment on the legal basis in the eyes of CFAA or DAFA, but from a business perspective AI is a legit threat to Amazon because headless Amazon makes it more difficult for Amazon to sell ads, which is a large part of their revenue. Meaning, even if merchants would have a difficult time moving from Amazon to an AI native version of Amazon, this is still a threat.

> AI is a legit threat to Amazon because headless Amazon makes it more difficult for Amazon to sell ads No, the threat is bigger than that. If AI automatically places orders on Amazon's site, tomorrow it could place the order on another company's site, and the user won't know the difference. You have to own the consumer experience. If AI owns the consumer experience, the underlying SaaS (or e-commerce website) become…

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Post by Retric » Tue, Sep 15, 2026, 5:48 AM UTC

bix6 wrote: post #200

freeopinion wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Delivery time is super important--50% of the time. Maybe less than 50%. I never pay for express shipping on personal orders. One or two days is never worth $3 cost to me. Let alone a $12-20 charge. I suspect super fast delivery is only a differentiator when all else is equal. At $6+/gal diesel, I'll take the cheaper item delivered by bicycle in a week. (A bit of a joke, but you get the point.)

I ordered something the other day from another website and it was $9 cheapest shipping option and took 5 days. When all Prime is 1-2 day “free” delivery for me, that’s hard to beat.

Amazon prime was costing me 20$/order so I cancelled it a while ago. Which made many sites competitive with Amazon on shipping.

As to delivery times, many things could take 2 weeks to show up and I wouldn’t care. The range where can wait 18+ hours but can’t wait ~1 week just doesn’t cover that many of my purchases.