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Post by KPGv2 »

artisinal wrote: post #176
KPGv2 wrote: post #106

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If you did that in the USA, you would lose your appointment and possibly be billed for a no-show.

A bill for healthcare? Foreign concept in Europe.

Hm? They have the Ausfallhonorar in Germany for if you miss a scheduled appointment.

It's not a bill for healthcare. It's a punishment for wasting resources. Like at buffets where they charge you for uneaten food on your plate when you leave.

HCPs in socialized medicine often still get reimbursed based on activity, so a missed appointment means they miss out on reimbursement. Makes sense you ought to owe them for costing them money.

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Post by Cockbrand »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #55
Cockbrand wrote: post #54

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> It’s sort of the opposite of an activity, and the brain hates it. While this is true, I'd word it differently: It's sort of the opposite of an activity, and we've conditioned our brains to hate it. Boredom used to be absolutely normal in our society for pretty much ever, and the urge to do something about it when it occurred was a lot weaker than it is now.

I disagree. I remember when I was a kid and didn't have access to smartphones (didn't exist) or other sources of constant entertainment. My days were basically just kindergarten and dicking around with other kids. But I remember I absolutely dreaded going to the doctor's office, taking a long distance train, or any other kind of "activity" that involved long periods of waiting around. I would find it extremely boring…

Very fair, and I'd differentiate between being bored as a kid (unbearable) and being bored as an adult (enjoyable to some extent). Maybe "mild meditative zen state" would be a more precise definition than "boredom" in the first place.

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Post by fairlyaday »

zaphar wrote: post #196
jdkdjckwjd wrote: post #189

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> Music, podcasts, television all hinder the practice of introspection. For you. It hinders the process for you . Some people think better when not in complete silence. Anyone that tries to speak broadly and paint everyone with the same brush when talking about neurological phenomena is clearly completely out of touch with the subject. The mind is a wonderfully complex and wholly unique thing. What works for one migh…

This is a pretty well studied and researched area. It is in the research almost universally accepted that silence or white-noise is the most conducive environmental soundscape for introspective thought across all groups.

Can a person who spent their entire life in a low sensory environment have a lot of worthwhile introspection? I think even the low sensory cave children have a form of council.

People go to therapy, group therapy, read, etc in order to have thoughts of others that seem rather important to introspective thought to me. I don't think all audio media and forms of listening would fit, but I don't think all wouldn't fit as those important inputs.

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Post by akudha »

bambax wrote: post #80

> Recently, as I reached for the play button out of habit, I stopped. I thought: what if I just do this chore in silence today? It seems most people today have headphones on all the time. I don't understand it. I'm not sure, but it would seem people hate their own voice? I just love silence. I can't work in anything but complete silence. In open spaces I wear earplugs. (If I'm not wearing earplugs it means I'm not do…

I just love silence.

I am just like you, but my guess is most people are not in this category. I also like empty space - no matter how big my living space is (not that it is big), I hate to fill it with things I don't need. Perfectly happy with just keeping only those things I need and leave the rest of the space empty. In this too, I have noticed, I am in the minority.

Not saying one is better than the other. If people like sound/noise, it is their choice. That said, people who like silence are at a disadvantage, as silence is becoming rarer and rarer, whereas noise is everywhere. At minimum, it would be nice if people put their headphones on and not bother others...

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Post by CrzyLngPwd »

inigyou wrote: post #126
CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #65

In the past, whenever doing something that didn't require concentration, I would always listen to an audiobook, and sometimes music. The moment I bought land it stopped. I wanted to be present, to hear the sounds, appreciate the changing seasons. Music and audio books got in the way. I cancelled spotify and audible and haven't looked back. Nowadays, I find I am getting back into sitting still and doing nothing, and I…

so we have to buy land? We're fucked.

My path isn't your path, you'll find your own path like I did, eventually.

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Post by ramijames »

dv35z wrote: post #209
ramijames wrote: post #190

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No job, no money, no healthcare.

Hey Rami - was trying to reach you through the form on your website, but I got errors. Contact me if you're interested in a fun, paid mission. // JRO

I appreciate it a lot. I shot you an email yesterday. Have a nice weekend.

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Post by bayindirh »

JK-Swizzle wrote: post #207
bayindirh wrote: post #203

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> In those cases, it can be a "free lunch" in the sense that the curiosity-seeking mind got fed while whatever physical task that needed to get done also got done with less procrastination and dread. The interesting thing is, exercise is more effective and beneficial when brain is focused on what body is doing, i.e. doing mindful exercise is more beneficial than giving brain a pacifier while body is doing something e…

I had not heard that about mindful exercise before. Do you have a source with more information?

I do not remember the exact study, but the one I read was pretty eye opening:

A big hotel chain takes a group of housekeepers and told them that their work also doubles as exercise. When compared to the control group, I believe after 8 weeks, the group which told that their work also doubles as exercise lost some weight collectively. Looks like the paper is at [0].

I have also done some further research into this, and found a couple of related studies.

One is [1]. Which simply states that focusing on the muscle group you're working on increases its activity and doubles the build-up. More references are present in the article.

Another study [2], tells that having an external focus point (music, podcasts or something) allows brain to make actions automatic and improve movement efficiency and economy, meaning the energy used is decreased IIUC. Hence, focusing internally makes body to burn more energy.

This study [3] states that listening to well selected music can improve efficiency and work output while reducing perceived strain. Improved efficiency again reduces the burnt calories per fixed time period, hence somewhat reducing the effectiveness of the exercise itself.

Hence, if you want to go far, some music or podcast can be beneficial, but for burning maximum calories in a limited time slot, looks like it reduces the effectiveness of the exercise somewhat.

Hope this helps.

[0]: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-9280.2007.01...

[1]: https://larsonsportsortho.com/mind-muscle-connection-can-bui...

[2]: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7739707/

[3]: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3339578/

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