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Mea Culpa – Dark Hours

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Post by cptroot »

dghlsakjg wrote: post #185
WhrRTheBaboons wrote: post #178

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>I refuse to believe nearly 100% of game developers aren't using AI Do you refuse to believe nearly 100% of written content isn't made by AI? Was your comment? I struggle to imagine thinking that no one does things themselves, for fun. What a nihilistic view.

I don’t believe they are saying that 100% of the entire game or content is ai, they are saying that they believe that a huge percentage of titles have used AI for at least one part of the game, however small. I can absolutely believe it, and I think it’s fine. If you have AI code up the logic for something boring but necessary (the setting screen ui, for one example. Don’t argue against this one example, that isn’t t…

> Don’t argue against this one example, that isn’t the point

What is the point then? The best games have all of their elements working together in service of their intended experience.

> someone who uses AI for internationalization

Do you think this would be an ok use of AI for a game? Did you not see the outrage over Hollow Knight: Silksong's translation last year? How every time a game is discovered to have used AI for translation there is an immediate backlash?

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Post by qarl2 »

lostlogin wrote: post #207
qarl2 wrote: post #192

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No, my question is whether the per-story fact checking is equal, or much less. I suspect it's much less. Do you know otherwise?

> my question is whether the per-story fact checking is equal, or much less. How could a one man operation have the fact checking machinery of some big paper, eg the NYT? Of course it’s less. Keep in mind that he usually posts multiple times per weekday.

No. You misunderstand my question. Again.

I want to know if the human effort, per story, is the same as other publications. Does Gruber make a real fact checking effort, or does he merely trust his gut?

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Post by qarl2 »

amazingman wrote: post #205
qarl2 wrote: post #154

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This is a very strange take. We got a full-throated retraction. Error correction is a hallmark of trustworthiness.

> We got a full-throated retraction.

Not really. When he says "I was misled" he's passing the blame. Other statements are equally defensive.

Notice how the retractions of larger publications do not make similar claims. They state the error and move on.

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Post by qarl2 »

amazingman wrote: post #210
qarl2 wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, my question is whether the per-story fact checking is equal, or much less. I suspect it's much less. Do you know otherwise?

> The question is error per volume > my question is whether the per-story fact checking is equal, or much less Which is it?

My dear friend, both questions are asking about the same ratio, just using different language.

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Post by Forgeties79 »

bookofjoe wrote: post #58
tomashubelbauer wrote: post #52

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Reminds me of politicians and public figures saying they got "hacked" after doing/posting something stupid and getting backlash for it. I guess "AI did it" is the new iteration on that.

Appears to have replaced "fake news" as the go-to response

The issue is fake news is real and has somehow been co-opted by the perpetrators to attack any claim/media group that is critical of them or their actions. If you fact check these people they just scream “fake news” until their followers chant it with them.

Huh I guess it is comparable to “it was AI” lol

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

qarl2 wrote: post #212
lostlogin wrote: post #207

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> my question is whether the per-story fact checking is equal, or much less. How could a one man operation have the fact checking machinery of some big paper, eg the NYT? Of course it’s less. Keep in mind that he usually posts multiple times per weekday.

No. You misunderstand my question. Again. I want to know if the human effort, per story, is the same as other publications. Does Gruber make a real fact checking effort, or does he merely trust his gut?

The retraction post from Gruber details ways in which he tried to fact-check this, including confirming that his understanding was correct with Mr. Godier and even running a draft of the post by him to make sure he'd stated the "facts" that Godier presented him correctly.

I'm not really sure what you're implicitly expecting him to have done "better" here. Ask Godier for a signed affidavit? Not publish this until he could get a statement from Apple to get their side of the story? (Which is to say, not publish it at all because the chances of Apple giving anyone "their side" of something like this is essentially zero.)

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Post by stefan_ »

NikxDa wrote: post #56

The thing that stands out to me with all of this is how little accountability there is left within the field. Published a rip-off? "Sorry, Claude must have done this". Published a shitty/wrong/insensitive/ post somewhere? "Sorry, the AI wrote it" Regardless of how we view LLMs as a whole, if you produce content with AI and publish it, you personally own every line of what you published. "Claude did it" cannot ever be…

This is just finally bringing the magical "the computer did it" to the masses!

When companies like Amazon accept, warehouse, bill for and ship unsafe Chinese trash, well, at every step it was just a computer. Google, X and others will happily show state funded scam advertisements from fake accounts and there is no one accountable, because it's just the computer handling those.

Now with AI, everyone can claim this magical legal immunity for themselves.

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Post by ButlerianJihad »

chipotle_coyote wrote: post #216
qarl2 wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. You misunderstand my question. Again. I want to know if the human effort, per story, is the same as other publications. Does Gruber make a real fact checking effort, or does he merely trust his gut?

The retraction post from Gruber details ways in which he tried to fact-check this, including confirming that his understanding was correct with Mr. Godier and even running a draft of the post by him to make sure he'd stated the "facts" that Godier presented him correctly. I'm not really sure what you're implicitly expecting him to have done "better" here. Ask Godier for a signed affidavit? Not publish this until he c…

I don't know, maybe google a few things? The most obvious search terms for me, turned up the pre-existence of the legitimate astronomy app, not to mention the trademarked name collision with a horror video game.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49217212

Perhaps engage critical thinking? Apply the CRAAP Test? Seek some independent confirmation of facts, rather than just being a mouthpiece for some hysterical acquaintance? If I had a Bitcoin for every time I heard some gamer was "banned for no reason!!1"

Apple could've denied the app just for clashing with the name of an existing game... a game that involved demons tossing fortune-telling cards around

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Post by dofm »

SyneRyder wrote: post #195
whstl wrote: post #175

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I dunno. Fender USA and Squier Jaguars and lots of pedals are for ppl in original bands. But the money is in Custom Shop Gibson, Fender and PRS, which are for ppl in the older generations playing mostly in 70s cover bands, or just hanging it in the wall to occasionally play Smoke on the Water. TheGearPage has become a very influential force in the industry almost like HN has.

Okay, that's a point - there's less money in the Squier Jaguars even if they sell more of them. I know I personally can't decide on a Squier Jaguar or Vintera, when I know what I really wanted is a Fender Cobain Jaguar. There's more money in the doctors & lawyers accumulating expensive gear that they rarely ever get to play. That said - the few people I know in the "rich kid buying gear" segment are deep into AI, and…

I would probably get a Harley Benton JA or MS and do any necessary work.

But then I'm a weirdo; the only guitars that really float my boat the moment are the Duesenberg lap steels and that Eastwood fretless cello guitar...

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Post by simonw »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #182
simonw wrote: post #17

The bigger issue here is that he mislead (I think lied to, personally) John Gruber to the point that Gruber had to issue his first retraction in 25 years: https://daringfireball.net/2026/08/retraction_app_store_reje...

Gruber himself has misled his readers without a retraction for many years, but this one he gets to blame on someone else, so it's no skin off his back.

What are your favorite examples of him misleading his readers?
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