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Post by alightsoul »

alightsoul wrote: post #195
alightsoul wrote: post #30

FYI you can't do this on phones with locked bootloaders as well as the author did. you could use termux but if termux runs on anything lower than android 8 termux will be significantly limited and you will need postmarketos and maybe fix support for it. with termux, at best things will be slow without root, as the author mentioned rooting resulted in a speed increase. without root, you also can't bind to ports on any…

Postmarket os is required if your device runs android 7 or below due to termux limitations which prevent you from installing packages, or if your android version has missing kernel syscalls that prevent you from running containers without x86 emulation which is slow. Rooting is required to install postmarketos, and making termux faster and bind to ports on Android. You don't need postmarketos if your android version…

Sorry in the post I meant you need at least android 7 for termux. 6 and below can't install apps.

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Post by jrockway »

PerditionC wrote: post #170
jarek83 wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if this is a native/non-native English reader situation. I'm the latter and for me the title promised that I will read about a server that now is capable of letting a person call to order a pizza. That was immediate thought. It would be very interesting to see a poll results on how many of us thought that the article is about a server doing phone stuff and not a phone doing server stuff.

I don't think so either, as a native English speaker, I originally read this as my server now has phone capabilities, not my phone is now being used as a server.

Interesting. I saw the title and read "my 1U rack has been replaced by a phone".

(I then realized that I have a cluster of 3 phone chips I use as my "server". Phone chips are pretty OK.)

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Post by Iron_Ninja5 »

I recently bought a $40 Z Flip 4 on Facebook Marketplace with a broken inner screen. Setup was tough while working half-blind, but once ADB was enabled, scrcpy made the rest easy. It’s easily one of my best purchases yet. It works surprisingly well as a full server and easily replaced the Raspberry Pi running my cloud sync apps. A 512GB microSD card alone would’ve cost double what I paid for the whole phone! My one complaint is that I'm unable to root the phone to optimize performance and set battery limits, but that hasn't held me back from anything I've tried to run so far.

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Post by lightbendover »

coliveira wrote: post #190
tkgally wrote: post #100

Side comment about the difference between “My server is a phone now” and “My phone is a server now.” In linguistics, the terms “theme” and “rheme” refer to the status of information in a sentence [1]. The theme of a sentence is something that is known or can be assumed from the context (that is, old information), while the rheme is information that is newly introduced in the sentence, often as a comment on the theme.…

This shows a problem with the English language: the same sentence can be understood in at least two ways: "the server can now work as a phone", or "the phone is now my server". It is to solve this kind of issue that many languages have markers to specify what each noun means in the sentence.

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Post by purplemoonx »

trvz wrote: post #95
purplemoonx wrote: post #26

Those saying it's said backwards clearly aren't self-hosters! iPhone hardware wise is like an amazing alternative to rpi (way better hardware) But the software makes no sense at all for a server, with screen locking due to inactivity and whatnot, not to mention energy and network priority is designed around a consumer use case on the move. If you run Linux on it and take advantage from the Apple hardware like the lig…

The main argument you give for it not making sense can easily be changed in Settings. The energy and network considerations have no impact on running a virtual machine in UTM – iPhones will give everything they can as long as thermals are fine.

On the contrary I gave use cases but concluded you’d be better off buying the right tools for the job (I would). But it’s still a cool project.

I would just run Linux on the phone rather than what you’re saying. Not running iOS as a server lmao

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Post by lightbendover »

baublet wrote: post #189
seg6 wrote: post #188

In true HN fashion, a surprising amount of the discussion ended up being about the title. Turkish is my native language, and its sentence structure is pretty different from English, so that occasionally sneaks into how I phrase things. I can see why “my server runs on a phone now” is less ambiguous. Anyway, I’ve enjoyed the accidental linguistics thread :)

I had an advisor really good at calling stuff like that out as "having an eye for the trivial." The advice helped me reframe my personal reading toward substantive engagement, rather than surface-level nitpicks like the order of words in the title.

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Post by embedding-shape »

nine_k wrote: post #45
embedding-shape wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but it's a lot less annoying to just accept a small risk of a house fire. Agree! But do get one or two of those "small automatic fire extinguisher" or whatever they are, that you can attach on stuff, for electrical panels and what not, and put right next to it together with a traditional fire alarm, and you're good to go :)

No extinguisher can stop a lithium battery fire. Putting the phone into a metal box, and the box, onto something not flammable, would help.

> No extinguisher can stop a lithium battery fire.

Maybe eventually everything around it can be so wet/burned out that the battery fire slowly just ends? The room would probably be fucked anyway...

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Post by jayd16 »

tkgally wrote: post #100

Side comment about the difference between “My server is a phone now” and “My phone is a server now.” In linguistics, the terms “theme” and “rheme” refer to the status of information in a sentence [1]. The theme of a sentence is something that is known or can be assumed from the context (that is, old information), while the rheme is information that is newly introduced in the sentence, often as a comment on the theme.…

I think it's awkwardly phrased because it's too ambiguous.

"My car is a Jeep now" is most likely saying "I switched to using a Jeep as my car" because, short of a large merger, it's not likely that the same car changed its brand.

The same server can become a phone and also the identification of my server can be switched to a phone.

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Post by purplemoonx »

tkgally wrote: post #100

Side comment about the difference between “My server is a phone now” and “My phone is a server now.” In linguistics, the terms “theme” and “rheme” refer to the status of information in a sentence [1]. The theme of a sentence is something that is known or can be assumed from the context (that is, old information), while the rheme is information that is newly introduced in the sentence, often as a comment on the theme.…

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