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Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work

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Re: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work

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Post by glenstein »

dofm wrote: post #61
fny wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That should have been the announcement. The article posted buries the lead. Cloudflare OS reads like almost any other AI knowledge base until midway when apps are introduced and then becomes overly technical with a code snippet.

Random trivia (and something I learned this way myself from an internet reply, though I can't remember when): What gets buried is the "lede". It is a really unusual thing — a deliberate, engineered misspelling of "lead" that leaked into broader use: https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/bury-the-lede-versu... (Not meant as a nit-pick — it's just something that adds really fascinating historical colour to a useful…

Not sure why you got downvoted on this one. You're right and you even turned it into a bit of language history. It's bury the lede, and now I know why.

Re: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work

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Post by benatkin »

runtime_terror wrote: post #141
benatkin wrote: post #89

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There is also qm with smol machines. I found this out the long way, by looking at the contributors to qm at https://github.com/yc-software/qm where I found BinSquare, the founder of smol machines. Then I found a tweet about a public instance of it where I could try out having it code something agentically - I'm in the replies here: https://x.com/binsquares/status/2083305704274976819 I guess the lock-in is to Cloudfla…

Workers also supports Python, Rust and anything via WebAssembly (Go, C, etc)

Ah, that changes the amount of work and the reward in the equation for attempting to self-host Cloudflare OS. And I knew that I could run WebAssembly manually inside of JavaScript, but it seems to be runnable directly too. What would help me to know further is how Cloudflare OS integrates its access control in that open source project, and if it is conveniently available to WebAssembly, Python, or Rust workers.

Re: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work

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Post by xyzzy_plugh »

philistine wrote: post #74
kentonv wrote: post #57

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We really struggled with how to present this to multiple audiences at once. My tweet thread, and the GitHub readme, is really the presentation intended for the HN crowd. The blog post is for a different audience. https://github.com/cloudflare/cloudflare-os

> The blog post is for a different audience. No one? Like literally, I don't understand a thing of what the blog post is saying. It's vague to the point of meaning nothing. Every piece of text I've seen that explains CloudflareOS is clear except the blog post.

This matches my perception of a ton of recent Cloudflare blog posts. I literally have no idea who they are targeting. It almost feels like they're targeting themselves.

Re: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work

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Post by dofm »

glenstein wrote: post #211
dofm wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Random trivia (and something I learned this way myself from an internet reply, though I can't remember when): What gets buried is the "lede". It is a really unusual thing — a deliberate, engineered misspelling of "lead" that leaked into broader use: https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/bury-the-lede-versu... (Not meant as a nit-pick — it's just something that adds really fascinating historical colour to a useful…

Not sure why you got downvoted on this one. You're right and you even turned it into a bit of language history. It's bury the lede, and now I know why.

I think it was fair. I added the bit in brackets to clarify because maybe it had come across as a nit-pick.

In my head there are corrections that are rude that I don't do, because I genuinely think authentic writing matters more and more, and because I am absolutely not above reproach where grammar and spelling is concerned.

Then there are things I think people would want to know, that are either in the intellectual-you-have-a-little-bit-of-pinach-in-your-teeth territory or in the "cool fact" territory, or somewhere hazy in between.

I figured if one is going to correctly use an expressive phrase like "bury the lede" that they've perhaps only ever heard someone say, they would absolutely want to know about the spelling quirk, because it fully makes it better.

Other people obviously read it differently and the downvote was a useful signal.

Re: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work

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Post by aziaziazi »

brazukadev wrote: post #159
NetOpWibby wrote: post #11

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From the GitHub page: This is not a traditional computer operating system. We use the term "operating system" in two senses: - An operating system for the company to be productive with AI, in a way that is safe, so that the security team can sleep at night. - An operating system for AI workloads, analogous to the sense in which a traditional operating system manages compute workloads.

the people criticizing the vibecoded name knows what they meant, it is just not correct. It is the same as vegan meat.

Excluding vegetables from what convey “meat” was also not correct around 1300-1500. Definitions changes with usage and only time will tell the future of vegan steaks, meats, milks, sauvages, butters and other parties.

> food, nourishment, sustenance

> Narrower sense of "flesh of warm-blooded animals killed and used as food" is attested from c. 1300

https://www.etymonline.com/word/meat

Re: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work

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Post by jtwocents »

QuantumNoodle wrote: post #150
philistine wrote: post #74

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> The blog post is for a different audience. No one? Like literally, I don't understand a thing of what the blog post is saying. It's vague to the point of meaning nothing. Every piece of text I've seen that explains CloudflareOS is clear except the blog post.

I used to read their blog regularly because it had lots of interesting technical details. Lately, though, there’s less of that, and I can’t quite put my finger on what changed. My guess is that they realized how popular the blog had become and started using that attention more for advertising. There’s nothing wrong with that, but earlier the “advertisements” actually made me want to try things out and bring them back…

https://blog.cloudflare.com/three-chapters-at-cloudflare-pro...

TL;DR; jgc stopped editing the blog, and AI slop took over:

> Today, after more than 13 years at the company, I am joining Cloudflare’s board of directors and retiring from my full-time position as CTO.

> ...

> I wrote for, and edited, the Cloudflare Blog for many, many years

Re: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work

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Post by boredumb »

kentonv wrote: post #57
fny wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That should have been the announcement. The article posted buries the lead. Cloudflare OS reads like almost any other AI knowledge base until midway when apps are introduced and then becomes overly technical with a code snippet.

We really struggled with how to present this to multiple audiences at once. My tweet thread, and the GitHub readme, is really the presentation intended for the HN crowd. The blog post is for a different audience. https://github.com/cloudflare/cloudflare-os

Launching just recently and having to think about how i'm marketing things more and more, the hardest parts to really market are the AI related features. Most of the real value AI provides isn't flashy its just eliminating the tedious work that sits between the interesting parts of a job: structuring messy data, extracting information from documents, validating it against references, filling out forms, routing it for approval, and preparing it for distribution. The exciting work was already exciting. AI just removes the friction between point A and point D. That's alot harder to demonstrate than generating an image or writing a paragraph. "Look, here's all the data you no longer have to enter manually" isn't exactly a compelling marketing headline, even if it's where users save the most time.

I sometimes wonder who AI marketing is really for. The people who would benefit from eliminating repetitive work, or other technical people who want to see interesting AI demos.. A lot of product launches end up looking like "Here's a prompt that bootstraps X," when the bigger story is that the prompt replaces an hour of repetitive work that nobody wanted to do in the first place.

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