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Evidence of inconsistencies in evaluation process and selection of winners

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Re: Evidence of inconsistencies in evaluation process and selection of winners

#211

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I think we need to address the underlying causes of people outsourcing their thinking like that. And a big contribution is “move fast.” No one has time to read, process, and think, because The Powers That Be (capital) want their results now.

Pragmatically speaking, a half-assed answer now, is often better than a perfect answer tomorrow.

Yes, but a grand prize result being awarded to an AI slop submission is not it. It deteriorates the legitimacy of the whole contest if all that matters is convincing an AI rather than critical reviewers.

Re: Evidence of inconsistencies in evaluation process and selection of winners

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AI is useful. But the amount of people that are simply offloading all of their thinking to AI and blindly accepting the answer is absurd. Kaggle is most likely using ai to assess the submissions and are not using any common sense by blindly accepting the results.

I think we need to address the underlying causes of people outsourcing their thinking like that. And a big contribution is “move fast.” No one has time to read, process, and think, because The Powers That Be (capital) want their results now.

FWIW, this isn't unique to capital. The same 'get a thing that ticks a box out of the door as fast as physically possible even if it's AI slop' thinking is everywhere in grant-funded academic communities as well.

Re: Evidence of inconsistencies in evaluation process and selection of winners

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I thought Kaggle was a website where you download dubious CSV files of annualized bean consumption in Bolivia, or whatever.

Was Kaggle ever a reputable source of original research, or a source of anything with any provenance at all? That would be news to me. The fact that 25 grand was involved this time is unique, I guess.

Re: Evidence of inconsistencies in evaluation process and selection of winners

#215

AI is useful. But the amount of people that are simply offloading all of their thinking to AI and blindly accepting the answer is absurd. Kaggle is most likely using ai to assess the submissions and are not using any common sense by blindly accepting the results.

I think we need to address the underlying causes of people outsourcing their thinking like that. And a big contribution is “move fast.” No one has time to read, process, and think, because The Powers That Be (capital) want their results now.

I think some people don't realize the unreasonable amount of effort they are creating for their colleagues when they submit slop as work. I see this more with documentation than code.

Re: Evidence of inconsistencies in evaluation process and selection of winners

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AI submissions and AI judges a match made in (AI) heaven.

A Slavoj Žižek-style "sticking a dildo into a fleshlight and have them do the sex for us" kind of situation, really

Welp, considering that one quick downvote, I suppose no one knows humor anymore...

Edit: changing your downvote to something else won't change that fact you know

Re: Evidence of inconsistencies in evaluation process and selection of winners

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That just isn’t true. AI is capable of performing a lot of grunt work reliably. Still must be reviewed. But a big productivity gain over doing everything yourself.

While I agree with you in principle, I think the parent has a point here: where's the amazing product that couldn't have been done without AI? By now we should have seen some major new invention/company, incredibly fast revolutionary feature rollouts etc but I'm just seeing more of the same.

Claude Code.

Re: Evidence of inconsistencies in evaluation process and selection of winners

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I think you're both talking about personality problems: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/22/opinion/office-work-wfh-b... : > The Secret Reason Bosses Want Everyone Back in the Office, Every Day of the Week > ... > Case by case, there may be good reasons for teams to work together in person. As a general rule, though, it turns out that ordering people back to the office full time is a power and status move. It’s a sign…

I mean employees pushing for remote work is a status and power play, too. I’d imagine self-centered employees don’t like being told where to work either. Office work isn’t objectively bad and remote work isn’t objectively good. If you like one and dislike the other, shocker you’re going to find fault with the other side’s reasoning.

I can only speak for myself, and I wouldn't necessarily describe myself as self-centered - except maybe for the fact that I resent two hours of my time being taken from me every time I have to go to the office, and not even getting any money for it. And being told to work 3 and soon 5 days from the office after it has been proven that home office works just as well feels like turning back the clock. Yes, that's an exercise the whole US administration is currently very excited about, but I don't even live in the US!

Re: Evidence of inconsistencies in evaluation process and selection of winners

#220

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AI has profound weaknesses, but is still extremely useful.

It doesn’t matter how useful it is if it is net negative (I am not saying that it is as I don’t have the data, but very well could be).

This is a staggeringly banal comment.
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