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It seems that the age of reading might be a short anomaly in human history

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Re: It seems that the age of reading might be a short anomaly in human history

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post #154

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I love learning, but I hate reading. Most of my learning now is via audio books while I'm doing something else. In my view, software development is mostly skimming and pattern recognization. Very little actual, deep reeding in my opinion.

> I love learning, but I hate reading. Correction: you love the feeling of consuming information, not learning.

Reading is not the only modality for learning.

Re: It seems that the age of reading might be a short anomaly in human history

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  And yet, strangely, Americans are probably reading more words than ever before. 
This sentence undermines the whole article.

People do read more than ever. But we don't recognize it as such. We read on our phone while intermittently reading subtitles of Netflix in the background. We read every time we look at a computer, phone, advertisement etc. But we only count reading paper as "real reading".

The shape of reading is changing yes. I think the "deep" thinking associated with reading has always been a bit of an elitist idea. Why would reading 1000 words of a great philosopher be any different from reading 1000 words of smut online. In some way losing this kind of stigma will make reading more accessible.

Writing and publishing is dying first. And that has to go long before reading dies anyway.

Re: It seems that the age of reading might be a short anomaly in human history

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post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love learning, but I hate reading. Most of my learning now is via audio books while I'm doing something else. In my view, software development is mostly skimming and pattern recognization. Very little actual, deep reeding in my opinion.

> I love learning, but I hate reading. Correction: you love the feeling of consuming information, not learning.

Imagine gatekeeping learning. I suppose the blind are incapable of it, then? Or is taking in information via the fingers somehow more valid than via the ears?

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> Margaret Rennix, Harvard’s assistant director for humanities and social-sciences support, told me she’d spoken with a student who was struggling to read a book written in Old English. The culprit: Anthony Burgess’s 1962 novel A Clockwork Orange. (The student used ChatGPT to “translate” the book into easier language.) Has the author read A Clockwork Orange? It is filled with made-up "slang" that's basically just Rus…

Wow. That went over the heads of both a Harvard student and an Atlantic journalist.

Re: It seems that the age of reading might be a short anomaly in human history

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You would be surprised just how quickly you can re-learn the focus to enjoy long-form writing and novels. Much like exercise, don't let your ego get in the way. Find something you enjoy, even if it's a bit trash, and just make it a habit. Like with everything you do regularly, your brain will get better at it, the habit will become more automatic, and you'll find yourself wanting to read more, and more often. It's ve…

when you spend long times focusing your attention upon that whole reading process it tends to stick. Like a drug with long-term effects. Do you want those effects?

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> The study looked at people who had read a book, magazine, or newspaper; listened to an audiobook; or read an e-book.

Uhm, what about Facebook, web-based news articles, and internet message boards? What about video games that involve significant reading?

The above statement is just so biased about what reading is, that I discarded the article as alarmist!

Just because someone isn't reading what you want them to, doesn't make them illiterate.

Re: It seems that the age of reading might be a short anomaly in human history

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post #213

And yet, strangely, Americans are probably reading more words than ever before. This sentence undermines the whole article. People do read more than ever. But we don't recognize it as such. We read on our phone while intermittently reading subtitles of Netflix in the background. We read every time we look at a computer, phone, advertisement etc. But we only count reading paper as "real reading". The shape of reading…

Some random thoughts:

It is very odd, I do more deep reading then ever before but its curated through llms.

I do the exploration then the dive on papers.

Many novels we love were released as serials.

I haven't gotten stuck trying to understand an idea because its poorly explained in a book in a while.

I think humans have been very inefficient at finding gaps in logical progression in explanations because anyone who already knows it subconsciously skips steps in the explanation.

That said, llms, woof. Still so much misunderstood.

Re: It seems that the age of reading might be a short anomaly in human history

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Can you recommend me a book to read?

It's difficult to recommend things without knowing a reader's taste, but I blanket recommend The Stars My Destination, by Alfred Bester. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stars_My_Destination

I saw this recommended by the Bookpilled youtube channel, I just ordered it. \(^-^)/
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