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Africans Are Turning to Starlink

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Re: Africans Are Turning to Starlink

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> take full advantage of the wealth of knowledge provided by the internet Seems like a bit of a stretch in modern times. Do you have any idea what percentage of traffic is TikTok/YouTube/Facebook?

Hi, I'm a Youtuber. I talk about computer history. Is my knowledge not valid just because I'm "on youtube" ?

Where did I target you specifically?

Re: Africans Are Turning to Starlink

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> take full advantage of the wealth of knowledge provided by the internet Seems like a bit of a stretch in modern times. Do you have any idea what percentage of traffic is TikTok/YouTube/Facebook?

Ahh yes, the ole throw the baby out with the bathwater retort.

Ah yes, a snarky comment of no substance. Thank you.

Re: Africans Are Turning to Starlink

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> take full advantage of the wealth of knowledge provided by the internet Seems like a bit of a stretch in modern times. Do you have any idea what percentage of traffic is TikTok/YouTube/Facebook?

YouTube has excellent creators for almost any topic you can think of and for almost any video style you can think of

The average person isn't interested in that. They watch funny videos. We are talking about the average person here -- not HN commenters.

Re: Africans Are Turning to Starlink

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I worked on the Starlink program in the Redmond facility during the growth from a couple sats as proof of concept to thousands of sats regularly providing internet. I’ve since moved on to other ventures, but I’m still incredibly proud of what I did there. Mostly because it brought internet to those unserved and those who no one was ever going to serve, at least any time soon. I believe the internet and access to the…

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Re: Africans Are Turning to Starlink

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Yes, all the time, because it is a private arrangement between the foreign company and the local company. Private companies are in no meaningful sense "cronies" of the government, even if they were accredited by the formal regulating body. You cannot point to a single major case of B-BEEE favouritism, it is a legal framework that is almost always impartial.

Hitachi famously got caught doing exactly this: using b-bbee as a front to funnel bribe money to the ruling party.

No, that had nothing to do with B-BBEE abuse.

Re: Africans Are Turning to Starlink

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Elon Musk is quite cotroversial figure for Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk_salute_controversy On one hand Elon Musk and JD Vance supported far-right German party AfD, a party with strong links to Russian. On the other hand Starlink helps Ukraine in the fight against Russia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AfD_pro-Russia_movement https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2025/02/24/germany-...

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Well in that case however it’s anything but silly, with AfD chapters being classified as confirmed extremist right[1], holding its party congress on this very day, exactly 100 years after the NSDAP held an important congress focusing around Hitler and introducing the hitler salute[2], holding meetings to make plans about expelling German citizens[3], had an employee convicted of being a Chinese spy[4] just to cite a few.

1: https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/sachsen-anhalt-ve... 2: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesparteitag_der_AfD_2026#D... 3: https://www.dw.com/de/vertreibungs-pl%C3%A4ne-befeuern-debat... 4: https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/ex-mitarbeiter...

Re: Africans Are Turning to Starlink

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Agreed Just like the violent ethnic cleansing against Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians and Jordanians by white Israelis is terrifying

Agreed. All racism is wrong. Would you like to take back your “And rightfully so” comment, where you support explicitly racist laws?

Why don't you guys ever acknowledge that the law is an attempt to correct the racism of the apartheid government by distributing economic opportunities to those who never had them?

Re: Africans Are Turning to Starlink

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The goal is to hedge national security risk by giving ownership of key industries to native South Africans and especially those who have historically been denied economic opportunities by the apartheid government.

Requiring SpaceX to set up a token reseller just to meet the the ownership requirement does exactly nothing for "national security". It's pure graft for whoever gets handed ownership of the reseller and nothing more. In fact if blatant enough it could be illegal under the FCPA.

It hedges national security risk by having 30% of the profits stay within South Africa, so that if the foreign company decides to use their company to, say, spy on South Africans, they at least have to fund our key industries to do so. That is why B-BBEE applies to Telecomms and other key industries.

Re: Africans Are Turning to Starlink

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Agreed. All racism is wrong. Would you like to take back your “And rightfully so” comment, where you support explicitly racist laws?

Why don't you guys ever acknowledge that the law is an attempt to correct the racism of the apartheid government by distributing economic opportunities to those who never had them?

Economic opportunity isnt zero sum. The 'opportunity' the ANC is 'redistributing' is neglect and mismanagement of infrastructure. Kneecapping starlink doesn't do anything for blacks.

Re: Africans Are Turning to Starlink

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I agree with your attitude. Technology can give false confidence. Self-rescue, and self-sufficiency are priority, not some sense that someone will come save you if things go wrong.

With Starlink, a smartphone, and a solar charger I’d have access to enough YouTube videos to rebuild civilization. Literally. There’s enough to go from building any type of housing to building your own steel forge. It’s amazing.

Only if the data centres, ground stations, power supplies, internet exchanges etc have also survived the end of civilization.
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