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Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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We made that world. There are very smart people who spent their talent making the most addictive social media as possible.

As if being addicted is somehow exonerating. Inverting the valence doesn't work.

Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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Why wouldn't you listen to a company on why their product solves the problem you're having?

Since you're not picking up on a social subtext, "we should not listen to them" here means "don't be influenced by them" or "don't take their words as granted". In other words, we should be skeptical, not literally shut them out.

I see an interesting schism in the discussion - there are two camps here.

One is normative: listen to tech CEO's if you want to predict what will happen.

Another is positive: let CEO's tell you what ought to happen.

What happened here was the original commenter talked about listening to Reid for normative reason but the conversation got derailed into ignoring CEO's for positive statements.

This is something I see often where one talks about what would happen but people barge in to signal their ethics and morals instead.

Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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Sorry, that's a typo, it's not SpaceX, it's SPAC X - as in, Musk is using SpaceX as a SPAC to absorb other AI companies. Cursor is the first, but will certainly not be the last. So, if it's not an AI company yet, it will be soon. I mean, the humongous total addressable market from their IPO filing has to come from somewhere , and Grok will definitely not cut it...

A TAM that’s equivalent to 20% of worldwide GDP is just nonsense

Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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>> “I’ve been thinking about writing an essay on the kind of mistakes that are made by college graduates booing or otherwise dissing AI,” he said. As if speaking to all of Gen Z, he added: “You guys have the opportunity to be generation AI—where you come into the workforce saying, ‘I know this a lot better than all of you" Quite patronising. Maybe they really do know it a lot better than you, Reid, but not in the way…

And even if they buy into what he is saying, that particular group are college graduates. They have already passed the window of opportunity one normally has to explore new ideas. They are in the phase of life where they have to hunker down and get to work. If this "generation AI" ever comes to fruition, it will be those who are still young enough today to be able spend most of their time playing.

Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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As the article said, Reid Hoffman is on Microsoft’s board and is an investor both in OpenAI and Anthropic.

So, a guy with probably one of the largest incentives in the world to trash xAI is trashing xAI? The information content of this is rather minimal. Even if everything he says is literally true it's hard to tell through the massive, massive vested interest he has. And it doesn't help that... 'Hoffman, who is an investor in both Anthropic and OpenAI, pushed back firmly on the narrative that the two companies are in a z…

There is also a political aspect to this. Reid Hoffman is a big democrat donor and hater of Trump, going so far as to funding a law change so Trump could be privately prosecuted for sex offences in New York.

Which is ironic, because Reid was a friend of Epstein and visited his island.

Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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I've recently used grok build and grok is really competent at coding. Composer is slightly better IMO, but it's really close.

It's not Opus or GPT 5, but that's fine, I don't need the AI to vibecode, I need it to follow my instructions and avoid producing slop.

I think the next models will change everyone's pessimistic minds.

Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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> Also: ageism isn't sexy Biology is ageist. The youngest baby boomers are still in their early 60s, and not yet subject to a precipitous-decline cut-off, but the median Boomer is about 71 and probably past it [1]. Given every President since 1993—with the exception of Obama—was born in 1942 or 1946 [2], I think it’s fair to admit this whole an-eighty-year-old-is-the-same-as-a-thirty-year-old tripe has swung to an un…

> Race is a social construct. Age is not. Mixing them up is fundamentally wrong and, I’d argue, dangerous. Even worse. Our entire society, hell our biology is based on old people retiring to leave space for the young to develop themselves. When you got gerontocrats in power for too long and after them boomers, all you'll end with in 20 years is a bunch of dead boomers and gen silent, and a bunch of gen y/z that never…

> Our entire society, hell our biology is based on old people retiring to leave space for the young to develop themselves.

No it is not. People retire, because they dont have strength to work anymore. They have no duty to give up their lives just because you want to take it from them.

Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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xAI complete train wreck maybe, however their models are really great, in conversational Grok 4.3 is my favorite recently, followed by Opus 4.8. It's not that great for coding purposes tho.

> It's not that great for coding purposes tho.

I found it to be otherwise, but it was not a complete hands off experience. Which is ideal for me, I like to be specific and grok 4.3 and composer are great code monkeys.

Opus and GPT are the models you want right now, for "I have no idea how to build this, so figure it out".

Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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So, a guy with probably one of the largest incentives in the world to trash xAI is trashing xAI? The information content of this is rather minimal. Even if everything he says is literally true it's hard to tell through the massive, massive vested interest he has. And it doesn't help that... 'Hoffman, who is an investor in both Anthropic and OpenAI, pushed back firmly on the narrative that the two companies are in a z…

The AI labs have somewhat the same problem that publishers have. Essentially their asset is a static piece of IP: a huge file full of numbers. They’re like a publisher only letting you read their book through some scuzzy Flash reader UI because they have to protect that file at all costs. At some point the weights get out/get reproduced and then what they have a is bunch of sunk costs.

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Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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Such an out of touch attempt to get the youths onboard the hype train.. ok boomer.

> ok boomer. Reid Hoffman is not a boomer. He was born in 1967. Also: ageism isn't sexy.

It’s not ageism. Don’t be so sensitive.
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