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Re: Anthropic employees accuse Trump administration of targeting them

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Post by tiahura »

digitaltrees wrote: post #186
tiahura wrote: post #181

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Argue with Anthropic, Amazon, and the NSA. They all say it is.

The burden is not on them to show that. It’s on the government to show why the restriction is necessary to achieve a compelling public interest. I’ll make them argue that when you get Sam Altman to admit he lost the lead to anthropic

It’s on the government to show why the restriction is necessary to achieve a compelling public interest.

Perhaps, ITAR and the like isn't my legal specialty.

Isn't on a company's CEO to make sure everything is copacetic with its public and private partners?

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Post by sanderjd »

tiahura wrote: post #210
sanderjd wrote: post #195

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I disagree with them, but they aren't the ones I'm discussing this with here. I'm discussing it with you. What do you think?

I think none of us know the real facts.

I agree with that. But that is different than your previous comment about it being sui generis.

Re: Anthropic employees accuse Trump administration of targeting them

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Post by sanderjd »

tiahura wrote: post #211
digitaltrees wrote: post #186

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The burden is not on them to show that. It’s on the government to show why the restriction is necessary to achieve a compelling public interest. I’ll make them argue that when you get Sam Altman to admit he lost the lead to anthropic

It’s on the government to show why the restriction is necessary to achieve a compelling public interest. Perhaps, ITAR and the like isn't my legal specialty. Isn't on a company's CEO to make sure everything is copacetic with its public and private partners?

No, there's an entire legal system where these questions are meant to be hashed out. The current administration is subverting that system.

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Post by InsideOutSanta »

sanderjd wrote: post #209
InsideOutSanta wrote: post #204

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I'm not sure whether there is a widely accepted definition of "policy" that matches yours, but if there is, it's not a helpful one. In general, a policy is a deliberate system of rules or guidelines.

Yes there is, and it is a helpful one. It is good and helpful to have words that just mean a simple thing. The things an administration does are the policy of that administration. That policy been be a deliberate system, or it can be haphazard and arbitrary. It is still their policy either way.

What I was trying to tell you is that your definition of "policy" is wrong.

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Post by sanderjd »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #214
sanderjd wrote: post #209

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Yes there is, and it is a helpful one. It is good and helpful to have words that just mean a simple thing. The things an administration does are the policy of that administration. That policy been be a deliberate system, or it can be haphazard and arbitrary. It is still their policy either way.

What I was trying to tell you is that your definition of "policy" is wrong.

I understand that's what you were saying, but it isn't, you're incorrect.

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Post by jimmydoe »

sanderjd wrote: post #55
jimmydoe wrote: post #39

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Genuinely, if the policy is that this capability is too dangerous to be in private hands, and thus all "frontier" labs must be publicly owned, that would be a defensible policy (that I would disagree with). But picking and choosing preferred companies like this is just indefensible gangster stuff.

I'm not suggesting only Ant. All is fine. Essentially what Bernie is suggesting.

Re: Anthropic employees accuse Trump administration of targeting them

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Post by InsideOutSanta »

sanderjd wrote: post #215
InsideOutSanta wrote: post #214

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What I was trying to tell you is that your definition of "policy" is wrong.

I understand that's what you were saying, but it isn't, you're incorrect.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/policy
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