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Re: Siri AI

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The only thing I want to know about this new Siri is how to turn it entirely off.

You could just not use it.

Oh I’m definitely not going to use it. But apple tends to try to put these things in your face and get you to use them (seen all those purple buttons in Pages lately?). A global “just don’t show me or try to get me to use this crap at all” switch would be very welcome. Bonus if it also frees up however many GB of space this garbage will take whether I use it or not.

Re: Siri AI

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In the EU case, Apple weaponizes people's ignorance about regulation. Apple pretends that the features everyone else has been shipping left and right somehow need extra paperwork and special approvals, because (…checks notes…) pro-privacy EU laws let zero-privacy competitors sail through, but block implementations that offer more privacy!? What's really happening is Apple unilaterally withholding features while makin…

It IS regulatory. The EU wants “anything Apple AI can do you have to let other AI providers do with equal access”. Which is fucking stupid, and Apple will never, ever throw open the gates to something so dangerously braindead. Their entire reputation depends on it. And China is kinda self-explanatory.

Yeah I hate freedom too.

Re: Siri AI

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It’s weird it says I can ask Siri about a document in front of me but can I ask it about a webpage I’m currently reading? (It’s been driving me crazy there’s no “AI this” button to discuss whatever is on my screen.)

I'm guessing they'll integrate with the double-tap-the-bottom-of-the-screen feature that pulls up siri in front of a screenshot. Currently it doesn't seem to hook into "visual intelligence", and needs to call out to ChatGPT to do anything with the screen contents.

Re: Siri AI

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I didn't really see anything that knocked my socks off. Mostly, it's the promise that Siri now works in the way in which they said it would work a few years ago, when it didn't. I do like the addition of Siri in the context menu, though. I can see that being useful.

I mean, in comparison with openclaw, etc. capabilities are ofc more restricted. However I don't want to accidentally delete my entire photo album, so I do understand the direction by delivering useful, but somewhat obvious features.

Re: Siri AI

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The demo Mike Rockwell gave at WWDC was interesting. He kinda showed off Siri as like the Star Trek computer for your phone. I hope this is the direction Apple is going to continue in. Having AI as a user interface is way more interesting than chat bots, image editors, or copy editing.

> Having AI as a user interface is way more interesting than chat bots, image editors, or copy editing.

What do you mean exactly? Audio conversation only? If so I don't see it very practical for most of the things

Re: Siri AI

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> Available on iPhone 17 Pro, iPhone 17 Pro Max, iPhone Air, iPad models with M4 and later and at least 12GB of unified memory, and Mac models with M3 and later and at least 12GB of unified memory. It’s really disappointing to see the on-device models being limited to so few devices. And this was after the iPhone 16 and 16 Pro were marketed so heavily with supporting their now failed effort at AI.

I’ve got a 2023 Mac Studio M2, and was dismayed by the M3 & later. So I’ve been trying to track down more details. That specific device list is only for:

> Apple’s most powerful on-device model and the features it enables, like expressive voices and more advanced dictation, […]

On other devices, I think there’s still on device support (just not with the “most powerful model”), for these devices:

> Apple Intelligence and Siri AI in iOS 27, iPadOS 27, macOS 27, watchOS 27, and visionOS 27 are available on iPhone 16 models or later, iPhone 15 Pro, iPhone 15 Pro Max, iPad mini (A17 Pro), MacBook Neo (A18 Pro), iPad models with M1 or later, Mac with M1 or later, Apple Vision Pro, Apple Watch Series 9 or later, Apple Watch Ultra 2 or later, and Apple Watch SE 3 when paired with an Apple Intelligence-enabled iPhone nearby.

This is from the footnotes on https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/06/apple-introduces-siri...

I do wish they’d been more clear about what the “advanced features” are :(

Re: Siri AI

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what's worrisome is that they continue to fail at it. it's one thing to say "we're still hashing things out". it's another to parade around Image Generation features that are obviously widely not-cared-for and oftentimes actively disliked Apple cares greatly about their brand yet this has hurt their brand like nothing else in the past decade

on the other hand failing at it or pushing it to the edges until they figure out where if anywhere it would actually make sense (which is I believe the entire crux of their strategy) might equally reasonably be helping their brand. I don't see strong evidence the average consumer is demanding 'AI features' in everything. I mean even amongst the technically inclined this is often bemoaned, anecdotally.

thats exactly what i'm saying they should be doing, but aren't. we're in agreement!!

why don't they just wait and not ship any AI junk at all? instead of promising a Siri AI rework, which then doesn't deliver? or Image Generation stuff that feels wildly put of character and generates tasteless and often downright creepy images?

not to mention that all of the new AI stuff they announced won't go live in China and the EU for a while.

why not do exactly what you proposed and wait it out? instead they seem to be trying to deliver AI stuff and just unable to.

there's also reports that apple execs held a secret emergency "oh shit what do we do about AI" type meeting.

they very much didn't intend to be this behind

Re: Siri AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

what's worrisome is that they continue to fail at it. it's one thing to say "we're still hashing things out". it's another to parade around Image Generation features that are obviously widely not-cared-for and oftentimes actively disliked Apple cares greatly about their brand yet this has hurt their brand like nothing else in the past decade

It’s worrisome, but it’s also worth pointing out that no one else has succeeded at it, or even gotten close. It’s easy to forget that there are not good well-integrated person AI solutions yet, it’s just chat bots. I think it’s just harder than a lot of people think it is.

absolutely agree.

but Apple isn't known to make grand promises and then not keep them, is it..? usually they just deliver what they say they will

yet i've been reading about "well they promised AI Siri two years ago and Siri still can't set an alarm right" in every thread even remotely related to the topic

i don't remember reading this much about anything else. it seems to have soured people quite a bit, at least in my internet bubble

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