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Lombardy increases charges for the construction of data centres in green areas

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Re: Lombardy increases charges for the construction of data centres in green areas

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I still haven't seen anybody demonstrating we have to do such thing. We do have to spent a bit of each for any new tech advancement, but the alarmist, disproportionate claim you make is really not helping. ArcelorMittal Dunkirk rolling & steel complex alone is ~450–550 hectares (more than colussus) and consume 2.23 TWh/year (colussus is ~2.6 TWh/year at 300 MW continuous load) and of course, water consumption for met…

The question is not about the cost the question is who pays that cost. Tech companies clearly want to coast on the infrastructure built out by the government. Microsoft doesn't really want to pay 10 billion euro to upgrade the Dutch power supply. What happens is that they will go to countries that let them pollute- a tale as old as the industrial revolution.

That's a different issue than OP's superlative claims and is something we as a society need to be working on.

But it's not AI related, it's true every time the eich and powerful privatize benefits while making the costs and risks to society.

It's a more global and important problem.

Re: Lombardy increases charges for the construction of data centres in green areas

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I don't think these are connected. You only get to have an opinion on data centers because politicians in Italy aren't directly impacted and have no skin in the game(no threats, international pressure, lobbying and bribes aimed their way). But if they did, I assure you your opinion wouldn't be taken into consideration on this matter and would be ignored. Forget nukes, but like if Italians would like a referendum simi…

Ironically, those two things you are talking about are actual populist talking points.

If it's what majority of the population wants, does it doesn't if you call it populist? The will make it happen according to your own logic.

You know what else is populism? Robbing the youth of money and giving it to the retirees as an unsustainable pay as you go pension system they will never get to see. Just because you call something populist to discredit it as being bad, doesn't mean it's not gonna happen.

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