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OpenAI Is Preparing to File for an IPO Soon

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Re: OpenAI Is Preparing to File for an IPO Soon

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If you were going to invest in any AI company literally the only one I would trust to still exist in 10 years would be Google

Yep. Two simple boring bets on AI: NVIDIA and Google.

I still think NVIDIA is a bad bet--where is their moat in the long term? Doesn't the sort of work NVIDIA engineers do look vulnerable to AI-assisted automation? NVIDIA engineers code against a well-defined test suite/specification, right?

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I would retire. If you have two million euros lying around, that would be life-changing money for me. I'd put everything into VWCE and then live off interest. I think I'd spend a year in Japan just to see what it's like, then travel around a few other countries, and finally settle somewhere back in Europe - buy a small house in the middle of nowhere, renovate it, and then smoke weed and play video games until the end…

That's such a cynical take. If everyone does what you're describing, we will never make progress as a society.

It’s not cynical, but it is overly consumerist.

I cannot imagine having untold amounts of money only to do nothing afterwards except consume the stuff put in front of you.

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It will probably be a failure, that is why they are rushing it to prevent a greater failure. Microslop and Oracle are already way down from their highs. Only Nvidia as the shovel seller still performs well. People generally hate AI. The IPO price will be inflated and the stock will drop 10% on the first day, like many late stage IPOs in the 2000 bubble. Friends and family like the Kushners will cash out. Trump might…

What war? We've been assured the war is over, and we already won! Multiple times...

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That's such a cynical take. If everyone does what you're describing, we will never make progress as a society.

It’s not cynical, but it is overly consumerist. I cannot imagine having untold amounts of money only to do nothing afterwards except consume the stuff put in front of you.

€2M isn't "unfold amounts of money"

It's enough for a modest retirement.

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If you were going to invest in any AI company literally the only one I would trust to still exist in 10 years would be Google

Yep. Two simple boring bets on AI: NVIDIA and Google.

I have a suspicion that when China will roll out their NVIDIA capable chips - and that is a question of when, not if - NVIDIA stock will plummet as it is heavily overvalued atm.

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Looks like there is only limited money in the market and there is a race to get it first. Wonder if the free market concept should move the prices down in such a scenario?

I think it's because the private market can't possibly go any higher. OpenAI is already valued at around $1 trillion and just raised $122b. The only next step is the public market.

>the private market can't possibly go any higher

Can public markets go higher? Shiller P/E is closing in on the peak of the dot-com bubble:

https://www.multpl.com/shiller-pe

This is already close to being the frothiest market in US history.

Consider two competing forecasts for AI: it's a "normal technology", or it will be superintelligent.

If it's a "normal technology", where's the moat? Why won't this turn into a boring commodity business, like telecom after the bubble? Sure, railroads transformed the US, but that didn't prevent investors from losing a bunch of money first: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47900502

If it's superintelligence, we're most likely either all dead (in which case you helped cause human extinction by investing, congratulations) or else we're living on generous UBI: https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/you-have-only-x-years-to-es...

Re: OpenAI Is Preparing to File for an IPO Soon

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Soon to be part of your portfolio if you hold Nasdaq 100 or S&P 500 trackers line QQQ or SPY.

Note that index funds don't hold companies in proportion to their market cap, but in proportion to their free float (shares available to purchase on the market). Both SpaceX and OpenAI's estimated free float are around 4-5% of their shares at IPO. This means that we really are talking about companies in the sub $100M valuation in term of index fund impact (assuming under $2T for each).

"free-float adjusted" is the key term

Re: OpenAI Is Preparing to File for an IPO Soon

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Looks like there is only limited money in the market and there is a race to get it first. Wonder if the free market concept should move the prices down in such a scenario?

This is also my understanding of why Twitter (and thus Grok) was acquired by SpaceX (which was already having an IPO). Less to do with GPUs in space, more to do with the first way to invest 'directly in AI companies without a proxy (e.g. nvidia).

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Anthropic models are well used for coding and similar tasks, and mostly through their own tooling as they are pretty aggressive limiting other usage.

But I don't see their models being used that much through api for all the applications that are using api nowadays. Openai is the one with the easiest api to use and the more lax about it.

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