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At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

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Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

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How about addressing the root causes of crime (i.e. poverty) instead of suppressing the symptoms by pushing crime out of politically powerful areas into politically marginalized areas? I'm not a fan of vandalism and luckily I'm living in a country where I have the law on my side when demanding that public space is not surveilled indiscriminately, but I totally understand the urge to simply take a stick to a camera th…

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Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

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Likely yea, but with them at least some idiots too stupid to drive get some degree of punishment.

In return for everyone giving up privacy. I need a lot bigger of a return if I am going to give up privacy.

Most of you use a smartphone, you're already giving away most of your privacy...

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

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How about addressing the root causes of crime (i.e. poverty) instead of suppressing the symptoms by pushing crime out of politically powerful areas into politically marginalized areas? I'm not a fan of vandalism and luckily I'm living in a country where I have the law on my side when demanding that public space is not surveilled indiscriminately, but I totally understand the urge to simply take a stick to a camera th…

Poverty alleviation is not a silver bullet (or anywhere close) for crime reduction, as nice as it would be if that were true.

It is when it comes to petty street robbery. Nobody with anything would find what the average person is carrying these days worth the risk. People don't even carry cash, just phones that you're going to get pennies on the dollar for, and that take an effort to get rid of.

Also, it's important to say that Oakland is probably the safest it's been in half a century. People pretending that some emergency is occurring right now that has to be reacted to is annoying. It's sad that your bike got stolen once. I'm not giving up a single right to make sure it never happens to anyone again.

A lot of wealthy people from sparsely populated suburbs moved into cities, raised the rents, and turned the former residents desperate. Their first exposure to crime is an exposure to an elevated rate of urban crime (in their quickly gentrified neighborhoods) and worse, people know the reason that they can't afford to live is because of that dweeb with the $1K phone living in the house they grew up in.

Those new residents have a distorted sense of reality, and a distorted set of expectations. They should be paid attention to less, yet they demand attention, drive up property values, and deepen the tax base, so they aren't.

> Poverty alleviation is not a silver bullet (or anywhere close) for crime reduction

It's also important to say that we have never tried this, and the reason we say that it doesn't work (despite all historical evidence) is because we don't want to try this. We don't care about the bottom 80% of the population, except when as servants they do not live up to our expectations, or when they live in the neighborhoods that we want.

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

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Flock cameras and the surveillance state generally speaking make me feel like a slave.

What about registration plates? Do they make you feeling like a slave?

Prior to Flock, no company was creating a vast surveillance network using my registration plates.

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

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A browser plugin that scores webpage content based on how likely it is to have been AI-generated would be quite useful. Browser vendors can't build this.

This is virtually impossible to build. Not just because all current "AI detector" systems are fake or outright scams with accuracy comparable to a coin-flip on frontier model output, but because even if someone did build a reliable detector and released it to the public, it could be used for adversarial training and it would become worthless pretty fast.

Pangram is legit. I don't work at pangram, we integrated it in our paper website and one of the cool emergent behaviors I've seen is that on AI papers with example rollouts, it will accurately mark the paper's main text as human generated and the rollouts as AI generated.

My understanding is that they strongly believe in no false positives, so it's definitely possible to slip something by them but if it marks something as AI, it very likely is.

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