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He said in another thread there's 6 people involved. 6 people for this project doesn't feel lean, without even considering the enormous LLM spend/complexity
3.2M active users. Not a huge staff to user ratio? One per half million users.
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3.2M active users. Not a huge staff to user ratio? One per half million users.
Where is that figure from? I would be extremely surprised if that doesn't drop at least an order of magnitude as the hype wears off. Assuming it's even representative of today and not two months ago
The site say 1200 Github contributors and looking on Github there are now 2105 so it doesn't seem to be dropping that much.
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Where is that figure from? I would be extremely surprised if that doesn't drop at least an order of magnitude as the hype wears off. Assuming it's even representative of today and not two months ago
It's from their website https://openclawvps.io/blog/openclaw-statistics The site say 1200 Github contributors and looking on Github there are now 2105 so it doesn't seem to be dropping that much.
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I view this type of post (his, not yours) as meta deception. I only became aware of this type of deception and its power from a bit of reading in to magicians and stage craft in the last few months. There’s a video on YouTube as well that does a great job of breaking down a Derren Brown stunt that uses it to great effect manipulating the TV viewing audience. I’d actually seen the original DB episode years before when…
Could you link to the video?
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You think humans are going to be writing code in 100 years?
Yeah, of course hunans will still be writing code in a 100 years. I am certain we still won't have flying cars either. Agricultural mechanisation didn't eliminate human labor over the 20th century. A huge fraction of the world's farmers have little or no mechanization today, well over a century after the invention of the revolutionary farm tractor. With apologies to Ada Lovelace, but humanity has been writing code in…
I'm personally just impressed with the rate of improvement and _hope_ that it will continue, and that inference prices will fall (or on-device LLM become more feasible/powerful).
Anyway I appreciate your perspective even though I don't necessarily share it
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Peter shows shit. What did Peter meaningfully achieve? What additional revenue is he creating? ah yes - shit and more shit on all accounts as it seems.
>OpenClaw hit 346K GitHub stars in under five months. 38 million monthly visitors, 3.2 million active users, 44,000+ ClawHub skills, 500K+ running instances, and 180 startups generating $320K+/month. OpenAI acquired the project in February. ( https://openclawvps.io/blog/openclaw-statistics )
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> I would expect that within a couple years, these other disciplines can be baked in enough the machine costs less for everything but surprises. They already are. I’m successfully using frameworks like bmad to deliver complex apps at that level. My job is to manager the see, as, ux, sre processes and catch errors. I spend more time refinding prd , epics and stories than I do elbows deep in code. If I don’t like the o…
> I spend more time refinding prd , epics and stories than I do elbows deep in code. And do you enjoy this more than writing code? I used to look forward to writing code, solving these little optimization puzzles, learning, and staying sharp. Working with agents is dreadful in comparison. They lie, rarely learn, and I feel like a proctor. Sure, you sometimes get to see something amazing, but usually I am just very an…
Now, I'm master of about a thousand lines of pricing code plus documentation and research which actually matters. The AI can handle the rest as a very skilled junior with a TBI.
You absolutely are a proctor, or senior manager. The AI is the smartest most well read junior you will ever meet, but don't go out of its happy path.
As you go out of the commonly read happy path for CRUD apps, you'll have to get more and more involved. I wouldn't write a new kernel design with AI right now, I might write a Linux kernel driver with it though.
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Could you link to the video?
Of course, it's at the start of this 5hr video (it's only 20 min segment or so I think) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnwcU-XDyJ4 (I've not watched all of this). It took me a while to find again, probably due to the title. I came across these guys discussing the same thing as well (link jumps to the correct place), which is more of a TLDR but also feeds into how it was used around Brexit, etc. https://www.youtube…
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> I don’t use openclaw myself anymore Firstly, who TF would use that crap in the first place at all ? Yeah, he did some crap he got paid for. So did the people who created the addictive algorithms for social and media or creators of the brainrot videos that infest kids' minds. Should we applaud them too?
You can hate it, but pretending it has no value isn’t a meaningful counter, esp given its user base. Gary Tan built GBrain on it. Poor logical fallacy-ing on your part.
It’s hilarious to me, seeing that one of the most fundamental challenges and frustrations of the profession of software development is the inability of management to meaningfully measure productivity and resorting to proxy measures, that a huge and vocal community of software developers have themselves become focused on a metric that maps directly to dollars spent.
Was already astounded that after decades of universally agreeing that number of lines of code is a terrible metric for software engineering productivity, devs are now using it as the proof that agentic software development is the future. Can't wrap my head around how lighting money on fire is now apparently something to maximize [0]. [0] https://old.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/1teswot/pe...