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You don't need programming languages to implement computer science. Pseudo code suffices for exams.
You don't need programming languages to DESCRIBE computer science but to implement it you need some programming language. Quite literally an "implementation detail."
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You don't need programming languages to DESCRIBE computer science but to implement it you need some programming language. Quite literally an "implementation detail."
If instructors are testing implementation details on paper exams then they're really missing the point of CS education. Completely lazy and incompetent, should be terminated.
Some portion of computer science education needs to be practical (implementation details), while some portion needs to be pure computer science (pseudo code).
Obviously projects are a good way to measure implementation details, but they are too easily cheated. Every class I took had exams as 80% or more of the grade. Not every class expected accurate syntax on exams, but most expected code rather than pseudo code (typically C).
If people attend university for certification instead of education I think the battle is already lost. AI is an easy, but possibly high risk approach to gaining the certification without work, but the tried and tested approach is doing the bare minimum, cramming, then forgetting everything after graduation. If you penalize people who use AI but in the process have learned the required information you make the problem…
More and more colleges are saying they will cancel your degrees if they retroactively detect AI cheating. This will be hysterical. AI isn't the issue as much how AI is used. Passive use of any tech, including social media, and now AI is lazy and has poor outcomes. Aligning AI use with the goals of all sides, and not just one side getting paid, or just one side graduating could look different. Most people attend highe…
I think that's the presumption that might be at the heart of the problem.
People have come to believe that their lives are improved by having more things instead of making themselves better.
>The idea of higher education teaching "learning how to think" is perhaps a relic
I worry that this is might have been a causal step involved in producing the current state of the world.
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I will challenge anyone who thinks they can get an equivalent quality of undergrad education and access to career services remotely.
Lol, nice to meet you. Left freshman year, got paid, got out. Questions welcome. College for tech jobs became useless after like 2008. Books are cheap. I'd challenge anyone in response to prove they got a degree in the 21st century.
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> These problems are all because of a culture that favours the measurement over what is being measured. What other kind of culture is there? A culture of not measuring?
Read the last four words of the sentence you quoted. You'll find your answer.
How does anything scale if you don't know how good or bad it is?
How good is your kids school? How good is your business's supplier? Is this restaurant worth eating at? Am I getting underpaid? Etc
If people attend university for certification instead of education I think the battle is already lost. AI is an easy, but possibly high risk approach to gaining the certification without work, but the tried and tested approach is doing the bare minimum, cramming, then forgetting everything after graduation. If you penalize people who use AI but in the process have learned the required information you make the problem…
The purpose of the university has always been certification. “You wasted $150,000 on an education you coulda got for $1.50 in late fees at the public library." - Will Hunting
If people attend university for certification instead of education I think the battle is already lost. AI is an easy, but possibly high risk approach to gaining the certification without work, but the tried and tested approach is doing the bare minimum, cramming, then forgetting everything after graduation. If you penalize people who use AI but in the process have learned the required information you make the problem…
The purpose of the university has always been certification. “You wasted $150,000 on an education you coulda got for $1.50 in late fees at the public library." - Will Hunting
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Clearly not all of them want to do so. My son just finished up his freshman year at college. A couple months ago he called me and told me about an interaction he had with his English composition professor. She asked the class how they were integrating AI into their writing process. When she got to him, he said he didn't use AI, as he wanted to use the assignments to learn to write better. Her response was, "Well, you…
Sounds like a poor and offensive attempt at humor.
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but how would you do that? what about homework and coursework? students will just transcribe claude slop on paper and submit that.
I thought it was widely agreed that most homework was literal busywork Do it on the classroom or it doesn't count
(Or at least they used to.)