Strange. I'm switching from Codex and Claude to Pi with Qwen3.6 27B local and Deepseek V4 Flash which is dirt cheap but powerful.
The US is winning the AI race where it matters most: commercialization
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Re: The US is winning the AI race where it matters most: commercialization
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How would they prevent distillation? That would seem pretty tough to block for any LLM available for commercial use.
By only providing degraded models to use commercially outside national defense applications would be my guess. As soon as models are a threat in terms of enabling biowarfare etc, then they just are not going to be generally released. Honestly, I think its quite possible that models will be retrained with gaps in their knowledge. e.g. a coding model for commercial use probably doesn't need to have deep knowledge of bi…
What a hilariously uninformed comment. LLMs are not the limiting factor in biowarfare.
Re: The US is winning the AI race where it matters most: commercialization
#213Well we're certainly losing in terms of public sentiment. There's a real anti-technology mindset that has taken hold. Basically the equivalent of people protesting the electrification of the country early last century.
Chinese culture is quick to embrace the benefits.
Re: The US is winning the AI race where it matters most: commercialization
#214"Where it matters most": accuracy and repeatability?
Sorry, nobody's winning that AI race.
Re: The US is winning the AI race where it matters most: commercialization
#215I don't think so. From a nation state perspective, AI is a munition. Every advanced nation is going to have their own cyber division with their own AI hosted within its borders. Considering how xenophobic and belligerent the US is, nobody is going to want their national cyber defenses hosted in the US. On a personal level, I simply do not trust the US anymore. I won't host any of my personal data in a US company. I d…
The US is not xenophobic. That is ridiculous. Any time you say stuff like that, you discredit the things you say that actually make sense. I'm with you on the privacy aspect, but there are multiple dimensions of that which you're ignoring. I'd much prefer taking my chances in the US than in the EU, where they are constantly trying to push companies to weaken privacy.
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ah yes, the "deep state." The formless, nebulous, rhetorical tool that is always infinitely liquid enough to fit into or over any container necessary that the user can satisfy their immense personal problems disguised as eternal doomerism.
I thought it was just an overdramatic term for the unelected bureaucrats that make up the majority of the government, and who have their own institutional momentum.
Re: The US is winning the AI race where it matters most: commercialization
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If anyone does invent ASI then everyone else will shortly after even if its entirely independent because all of the players in this space are just making incremental upgrades by throwing more compute at the problem. There are no magic leaps of true innovation happening anywhere that can't be replicated everywhere. The only shocking thing about "AI" technology is how ultimately simplistic it all is at a core level. So…
There is zero evidence that the current LLM scaling approach could ever result in true ASI. If I start driving south from Seattle then I'll eventually reach Los Angeles. How long will it take me to drive to Honolulu?
> If I start driving south from Seattle then I'll eventually reach Los Angeles. How long will it take me to drive to Honolulu?
I like this analogy, but I'll be replacing Honolulu with The Moon when I steal it in the future.
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#218Earlier quoted context omitted.
This. I dont know what the benchmarks are supposed to represent, but to me Kimi K2.6 is indistinguishable from e.g Opus 4.6.
How much would one have to invest in hardware to feasibly run a usefully large Kimi K2.6?
There's no set-in-stone answer to these kinds of questions, it all depends what "useful" performance means to you.
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I hope you are right, but unfortunately there is no particular reason to trust China's leadership anymore. They are not nearly as obvious at Trump, but they are not on a good path.
I'm explicitly distrusting them, they're saying they want to take Taiwan and I don't believe them. I try to ground my belief in realpolitik, cynicism, and from my experience with strategy games. There is an element of manipulating your opponent into acting the way you want them to by sending them costly false signals, they have to be costly or they won't be believed. I think we (the West) are being played and the gif…
Unfortunately if you are wrong it is an even worse disaster and so if there is any possibility we are all forced to play their game.
Re: The US is winning the AI race where it matters most: commercialization
#220Inclined to disagree. The winner here will be whoever can move atoms with AI not take notes at the daily standup. i.e. Think boston dynamics vs unitree They're both doing well but I'd lean towards China is winning on atoms in light of a huge manufacturing base they can AI-ify.
> They're both doing well but I'd lean towards China is winning on atoms in light of a huge manufacturing base they can AI-ify.
Why would an American company outsource manufacturing to China if the labor cost is the same in both places? The entire reason the Chinese manufacturing base exists is to exploit cheap labor.
What would be the point of shipping products across the ocean?