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VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by estimator7292 »

makeitdouble wrote: post #199
ExoticPearTree wrote: post #142

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> Microsoft spent literal decades rehabilitating their reputation. And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods. Probably they thought the new generations forgot about how awful they were in the not so distant past. I think they set it all on fire because greed got the better of them again.

> greed Is a greed/not greed scale really useful to discuss company behaviors ? I wanted to say I get what you mean, but even thinking about the company I root for the most, I can't think of a point where they're not driven by their desire to make a lot more money. If your point is that there's good and bad ways to seek money, I'm not sure it's properly encompassed by "greed", which I interpret as the intensity of a…

Approximately everybody would like more money.

Greedy people put the desire for more money above the welfare of the business, themselves, and other. Greedy people literally put their desire for more personal wealth above the very lives of others.

Greed/not greed is a very fair way of putting it. One can operate a business that requires profit without wanting to destroy everyone and everything that stands in the way of more money.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by 2ndorderthought »

sdevonoes wrote: post #195
2ndorderthought wrote: post #144

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One things for sure I won't be buying any SaaS, streaming, or ordering from Amazon if I have no future prospects for work. I already stopped most of my subscriptions because of a layoff unrelated to AI. We buy food and go for walks as entertainment. It's been refreshing but also obviously scary.

Didn’t get the “scary” part. I also keep my entertainment to the minimum dependencies possible. I try to rely on stuff I own: music cds, iso videogames + emulators, physical books or ebooks (thanks Anna), exercise outdoors… ditching streaming like netflix/youtube, buying crap on amazon, uber, etc

Scary part is not having a job right now that's all. It's not scary walking around getting more vitamin d

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Post by thephyber »

OutOfHere wrote: post #180
TeriyakiBomb wrote: post #172

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I said AI has utility but drives irrational levels of investment. Crypto has little utility besides a place to gamble, con credulous people and otherwise act as a really shitty store of wealth. Most modern crypto projects barely bother to promise to do anything useful let alone achieve anything useful, which the overwhelming majority do not. These aren't beliefs but statements of fact.

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Who is investing in NFTs today?

Who is building their company using permission-less blockchain as the database? The average person still uses a bank checking account, not replacing it with a crypto account.

I haven’t heard of any progress on tokens in the Governance direction.

Stablecoins without a public audit trail have so far stayed relevant, but there are several which are suspiciously reminiscent of the mistakes that SBF made.

We all see the transfer of funds and the ostensible store of wealth when it comes to buying influence or presidential pardons. Those of us not wearing crypto-colored glasses don’t see the promise that VCs sold us on the industry 5-10 years ago.

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Post by cheschire »

artyom wrote: post #182

To everyone who bought the "developer-friendly" Microsoft of VSCode fame from a few years ago: this is what they forever did, and forever will do. This company has been pulling these tricks since the early 90s. If you fell for this once again, there's nobody else to blame but yourself.

You may be surprised to learn some of the employed adults on this site were born after the 90’s.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by dbeley »

MaKey wrote: post #100

FYI, they changed the default of 'git.addAICoAuthor' to 'chatAndAgent' afterwards: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/pull/312880 So it was 'off' -> 'on' -> 'chatAndAgent'

This should be higher, as this dates from 5 days ago I wonder why OP didn't bother to mention this follow-up

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Post by estimator7292 »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #157
janice1999 wrote: post #69

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They invested billions. They're scared.

> They invested billions. They're scared. They could have shipped a good product with all those billions they spent in reinventing Clippy. I have this feeling that their bet was that all the Microsoft shops will jump on Copilot without looking at alternatives, so they did not really have to make it as good as their competition.

Good products are not profitable enough. Not that good products are profitable at all, but if it doesn't make disgusting amounts of money this quarter it's not worth considering at all.

We've reached the phase of "infinite shareholder growth" where physics says no, and that is so unacceptable that we'd rather burn down the entire global economy than accept less than exponential growth. It isn't that growth is impossible either, there just can't be enough growth. Break-even is apparently a fate worse than death

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Post by CamperBob2 »

pfdietz wrote: post #175
le-mark wrote: post #121

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Google will definitely lose. Llms supplants search. But not the old document search which they stopped doing long ago. Add in the fact that open weight models are 6-12 months behind frontier models means AI companies aren’t building a moat, they’re on a treadmill. And treadmills don’t justify the valuations OR the hype. AI companies are in trouble.

What does their patent moat look like?

Google owns the core transformer patent(s), for one thing, e.g. https://patents.google.com/patent/US10452978B2/en.

I haven't read the claims, so I don't know how easy it will be to work around them. This particular one seems to cover encoder-decoder networks, so it's not necessarily applicable to later LLM implementations. But I'd be amazed if Google didn't have several other relevant patents in their arsenal.

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Post by rsynnott »

bigyabai wrote: post #161
ExoticPearTree wrote: post #157

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> They invested billions. They're scared. They could have shipped a good product with all those billions they spent in reinventing Clippy. I have this feeling that their bet was that all the Microsoft shops will jump on Copilot without looking at alternatives, so they did not really have to make it as good as their competition.

> They could have shipped a good product with all those billions They did. It's called Azure: https://www.geekwire.com/2026/microsoft-tops-wall-street-exp...

That's largely a product of work in the 2010s. What's their next Azure? Clippy on steroids probably won't cut it.

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Post by OutOfHere »

thephyber wrote: post #213
OutOfHere wrote: post #180

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Who is investing in NFTs today? Who is building their company using permission-less blockchain as the database? The average person still uses a bank checking account, not replacing it with a crypto account. I haven’t heard of any progress on tokens in the Governance direction. Stablecoins without a public audit trail have so far stayed relevant, but there are several which are suspiciously reminiscent of the mistakes…

I never spoke about NFTs nor do I have to speak about them, not today and not ever, so save your bait. It's in the same way that you didn't speak about bank bailouts, so I won't bait you into it.

Most people obviously use multiple accounts of different types. Those who have crypto wallets will never reveal them to you in the interest of their privacy.

Stablecoin firms make so much cash via interest that they're easily over-capitalized.

If you're foolish enough to be manipulated by VC interests, that's your own fault. I would focus on the tech, not on what VCs want you to believe. This applies generally, irrespective of the sector. I don't know why this is hard to understand.

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Post by naruhodo »

cookiengineer wrote: post #147
Animats wrote: post #7

Does that make the code uncopyrightable? Non-human authorship?

The real question is why Anthropic was able to use DMCA takedown requests "in good faith" against the Claude leaks when their own CTO claimed it is a 100% slopcoded codebase, and they themselves argue that all LLM generated code is transformed enough to not be copyrightable. Which they have to state without being able to turn back because they violated millions of book and software licenses during training. Make it m…

Truth, law and consequences (for the capital class) are so last year.
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