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Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Just switch to Linux people!

Came here to say that. I've recently tried linux mint and it just works. You don't have to use the terminal if you don't want to, but i do enjoy using it. It's a breath of fresh air after windows. I'm now waiting for the year of the linux desktop. Though i'm not holding my breath. The average person will carry on using their system until it grinds to a halt under all the crap they've installed on it, and then complain their computer is too old.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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On Windows 11, when you reconnect to a monitor or set of monitors that you've connected to before, it will automatically return your open windows to the layout across those monitors that you had when you last disconnected (assuming those windows are still open). This is extremely nice and saves me time on a literally (not figuratively) daily basis, to the point that I generally forget that it hasn't always worked tha…

Even aside from the malevolence, Windows is rotten from the thirty-year old metaphor that it started with: windows themselves. The job of positioning and resizing applications is a confusing mix of responsibility between the user and the system. Once you've switched to tiled window managers, examples like these sound like Stockholm Syndrome.

I hate tiling window managers. After I start a program, I move and resize its window to the perfect position, and it stays there for weeks. I don't ever want it to be moved or resized automatically, which is what tiling window managers do by default.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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> My ask of you: try the experiences, pressure test them, and let’s keep building a product we are proud of. Translated: We fired our Quality Assurance. You are the QA now.

I was at Microsoft for that particular transition but it is still wild to me that a post about improving quality starts with details about windows insiders.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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> Regaining trust is extremely hard after you've crossed an edge. Microsoft needs to learn consent. Everywhere there's a Yes and "Remind me later", there has to be a No. And the No has to work and be remembered forever, not forgotten after the next update. Using Windows has to stop feeling like you're being roofied all the time.

Yeah this seems to be a trend over the last few years. Google does this too. I don't have photos backed up to my Google account on a Pixel and every few days if I open the photos app it prompts me to backup to the cloud and I always have to click "maybe later", "not now" or whatever they decide to name it. It's messed up because if I were to accidentally ever click yes to that it would fill up my Google storage and I…

or every time you click a YT link in firefox on android it asks "do you want to open this in the YT App?" where you're options are Yes (with an always use app checkbox) and "Cancel" to open in the browser. Like "Cancel" means "no, get out of the way and do what I want before you injected yourself in this flow"

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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It's always the MBAs. The organizational structure incentivises them on the wrong metrics. So they adapt and optimize for that. In real life, after a while, you hit a plateau with features and market demand. What these MBA clowns love to do is take what's already perfectly fine and mess it up and create a road map for it to fix something to being it the way it was, so they can justify to their higher ups they are "ad…

Which company would you say is the example(s) of the latter? Sounds like utopia I'd like to be a part of.

Valve and the few sane startups / small/mid sized companies you can be lucky enough to end up in.

I was part of the transformation of a healthy mid size engineering led startup company that got taken over by MBAs and Indian employees and saw the whole lifecycle.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Yeah this seems to be a trend over the last few years. Google does this too. I don't have photos backed up to my Google account on a Pixel and every few days if I open the photos app it prompts me to backup to the cloud and I always have to click "maybe later", "not now" or whatever they decide to name it. It's messed up because if I were to accidentally ever click yes to that it would fill up my Google storage and I…

Those are dark patterns for sure. I don’t know how big companies can still pull that in 2026

People were eased into a defeatist attitude over time. Easily done when everyone's trying to achieve it.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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The Windows we want: The SAME as Windows 2000 in terms of what is installed. NO TPM REQUIREMENT. Even better: when installing Windows, there should be a "install minimal" option, and if you select it then it should be so fucking minimal - so little on there, that all you get is control panel and a way to install new software - NOTHING more. That's your win, Microsoft. I'm 2000% certain nothing even slightly close to…

Hopefully they don’t give up the TPM requirement given it also comes with a VBS capable processor which is important to Windows kernel security.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Just switch to Linux people!

I got a new computer a couple weeks ago, with a 5070, and installed ubuntu on it and it was incredibly slow. I looked online and found some claim that 24.04 has some incompatability with nvidia, tried installing a bunch of different driver versions and nothing helped, tried turning everything off in gnome tweaks and still slow, tried installing 26.04 and 22.04 but the installer hangs forever in both, tried linux mint…

I run a computer with a 5070 and Nobara. Nvidia and Linux always seem to be at odds but that has gotten a lot better with some distros.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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The problem is that "to let them run just the things on their computer they want to run" changes when they want it to run something new. They don't care about cloud backup for their data? One hard drive failure, and suddenly they do. And if you want to sell the same version of the OS to different people, you need the union of what everybody wants and what everybody is going to want later. But there needs to be a way…

> And if you want to sell the same version of the OS to different people, you need the union of what everybody wants and what everybody is going to want later. The answer is: make the OS extremely modular so that the user can have configure whether he wants an absolutely minimalistic OS or something with "batteries included".

And can change their mind later. And it's clear how to change their mind later, and easy to do it.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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What people realy want: as little OS as possible to let them run just the things on their computer they want to run. What Microsoft wants: Windows as their straightjacket into the Microsoft services as that is where the revenue is. Why Windows got this bad: incentives and coercion placed on the teams to show uptake on the services no matter what leading to perversion in tactics and complete alienation of the user bas…

It's always the MBAs. The organizational structure incentivises them on the wrong metrics. So they adapt and optimize for that. In real life, after a while, you hit a plateau with features and market demand. What these MBA clowns love to do is take what's already perfectly fine and mess it up and create a road map for it to fix something to being it the way it was, so they can justify to their higher ups they are "ad…

> A good organization is always run by engineers at the top level and engineers don't incentivise engineers simply for working on roadmaps of perfectly fine existing features. That's the difference.

I wish this were true, but unfortunately, I've seen enough evidence otherwise to strongly disagree. MBAs weren't born evil, they were made that way in business school. The same corrupting process works on engineers and can happen outside of business school contexts (one common corrupting force is Hacker News comments). An MBA-brained engineer as a manager is orders of magnitude worse than a regular MBA.

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