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GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing

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Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing

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Something is hilariously off here: Why should I pay $10 and be forced to use it by the end of the month, while I can pay $10 and have it last as long as I want? Their "API pricing" is exactly the same as that of providers: https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/copilot-billing...

I'm thinking the same. Downgrade to Pro and use OpenRouter (same price) for overage. Seems a massive loss for Microsoft. Presumably there's a further rugpull to come.

I'm already on Pro. Why should I keep it?

Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing

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post #74

I don't use Copilot or any paid AI but all of this usage-based billing reminds me of cellphones back when you paid per individual text message. Usage paying for AI is 1000x crazier because you're not even getting a guarantee in the thing you pay for in the end. You have to keep feeding it prompts and hope it gives you the solution you want. You may end up with no expected result yet you are paying for it. At least wi…

Yeah, this was my frustration with Suno and Sora. You can burn a lot of credits (not to mention time) generating things that aren't what you wanted.

I don't mind a PAYG model for a simple chat interface. But when it comes to actually producing things, you burn through TONS of tokens creating the wrong output.

Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing

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Well. Just got an email from GitHub saying they'll be raising prices for Co Pilot. "To keep up with the way you use Copilot, we're transitioning to usage-based billing, and we want to give you enough time to prepare." Man, it was fun. Having my tokens subsidized by Microsoft. If the prices go up to much I guess I'll try Deepseek again.

It's amazing how much I was able to build for $40/mo- something that would have taken a team of 100 twice the time just a few years ago. Will always be grateful for the greed of trillion dollar corporations that subsidized me.

I'm starting to see comments like this in a new light after using some primarily AI-coded apps the past few weeks. They are a lot like apps that were built by hundreds of developers/product people over years and years, in the worst ways.

Inconsistent design patterns from page to page, half baked features, inconsistent documentation (but BOY is there ever a lot of it!), NIH ui component libraries that don't act like you'd expect. All that fun stuff.

It's like they speedran the worst parts of enterprise apps.

Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing

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post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks this is helpful. I am on my first month of annual Pro. Should I keep it or cancel it (ask for a refund)?

It isn't just the big multiplier increase, they also say "...and no new models or features will be added to annual plans going forward." Can you imagine ten months from now and you're still rolling Sonnet 4.6? Cancel/refund is looking pretty good. They're doing refunds until May 20. "To request a refund, go to Settings → Billing and licensing → Licensing, select Manage subscription, then choose Cancel and refund "sub…

Appreciate the info. Have you got a similar opinion of the 'convert to monthly' option they've also provided?

Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing

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post #174

What's the current situation for coding with Local LLM's on decent hardware? I have an M3 Max with 64 gb of ram and am thinking I should start looking at Ollama and Opencode? Is this a useful stack for smaller personal projects?

One nice development recently was ollama's support for MLX optimization on Mac hardware. It's not obvious how to know you're using a model that works with it, yet, so it's rough around the edges.

https://ollama.com/blog/mlx

Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To anybody who's been watching the tech sector with a critical eye for pretty much any period from the late 90s and onward, this is just the enshittification process. For most of OpenAI's existence it's been obvious, to me, that investors were burning insane levels of capital to build the market, and now that folks are locked in, you're seeing higher fees, ads, etc. Yet again, the user is the product; the investors w…

I'd call it a straight up "bait and switch".

Oh, I thought it was opium.

Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing

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The problem is that people expect to get the output of 100 people with a $20 subscription by spawning multiple agents. This is unrealistic. I'm using 2 codex plus account and able to manage a repo with 265-300k lines of code.

The point is - if its the same or more expensive per month than a real human employee - why pay for AI ?

Human retain knowledge, product knowledge, can pick up more work often for the same money. And having many of them means your business wont go down if provider suddenly bumps API pricing.

Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing

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The era of subsidised inference is truly ending. The new model multipliers ( https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/copilot-billing... ) seem like a huge leap, though. From 1x to 6x for new-ish GPT and Sonnet models. 27x for Opus... Seems like folks would be better off with OpenRouter instead.

Everyone seems to believe OpenRouter isn't subsidizing but, until they publish audited financials, I personally doubt it.

Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing

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Github had, by far, the most easily game-able agent usage policy. People would force the agent to run a script before the end of turns that consisted entirely of `input("prompt: ")` so that you could essentially talk endlessly to an agent for the price of a turn. I see this less about the future of this industry and more about fighting the costs incurred by bad actors.

Charging by prompt was always wild to me.

I once asked it to do a comprehensive security review of our code. It churned for nearly an hour (and then produced 90% false positives). Insane that that usage was charged the same amount as me just saying "Hello".

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