LLM slop aside, it would be nice to have a less rational Apple leader that launches riskier products. Get that car out.
Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good
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#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Apple appears to be chasing Microsoft down the toilet. Its exhumation of the circa-2002 "transparent" UI fad is one example, coupled with other baffling UI regressions. Windows 11 is perfectly cromulent. I don't prefer it, but with WSL, it's like a slow almost-MacOS. The anger over the transparency is I guess personal, I genuinely don't notice it. I certainly haven't stumbled over it. (I might have changed a settin…
I am a long time mac user and I agree with all of their points. I guess you disagree, but I am not sure why you are being dismissive. Each point is a legitimate criticism from many peoples' points of view.
I acknowledge the complaints, I love a good complaint! My issue is that these superficial, and in many cases, easily remediable annoyances add up to a "crappy OS". MacOS has to satisfy a very diverse userbase from Paris Hilton-types to grumpy Hacker News readers (but thankfully not Bank of America), and I think they do a better than decent job at it.
Also: I don't use Mail.app.
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Every time I do report these kinds of bugs it's clear to me they clearly do not look at them lol. The Feedback site still thinks windows 10 is the latest windows version and doesn't even display the latest ios version.
They are looked at. Source: I work for Apple.
Mind emailing me? gbeowbrea+nccyr (at) tznvy.pbz
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I'm aware of the open bribery by the administration. That has nothing to do with my comment.
Right, and without that open bribery they would have had 100% tarrifs on all of their iphones, macbooks and semiconductors, which is an overwhelming portion of their revenue. Now obviously, this only covers a small portion of Tim's reign over apple, but is it not fair to say you'd have a different overall view of his tenure if he was an honest businessman and ate the tarrifs like he was supposed to, probably tanking…
I would probably have a stronger gripe with the ridiculousness of the tariffs than Tim Cook's refusal to bribe the president. Also, to say that not bribing would make him an "honest businessman" is slightly unfair. He has a fiduciary duty to the shareholders, and if he is aware that lobbying to the president personally to avoid tariffs is what it takes to avoid tanking Apple's profit and share price, he is required to do that.
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they're clearly not the main revenue drivers, contrary to Apple
If you look at Apple's profits - it's about evenly split between 'Services' ( like music and app sales etc ) and hardware. Now hardware gross revenue is about 3x the services - but the profit margin is much higher on services. Apple don't break out the numbers so it's difficult to know how much of that service revenue is tied to people owning Apple hardware and how much is independent ( like Apple Music or Apple TV )…
yeah I think the key point is in your last sentence - maybe some people would buy Apple Music/TV without an iphone or an AppleTV? I don't think anyone would buy icloud without the hardware though. And presumably they're bundling applecare in the "services" as well :)
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#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am a long time mac user and I agree with all of their points. I guess you disagree, but I am not sure why you are being dismissive. Each point is a legitimate criticism from many peoples' points of view.
I acknowledge the complaints, I love a good complaint! My issue is that these superficial, and in many cases, easily remediable annoyances add up to a "crappy OS". MacOS has to satisfy a very diverse userbase from Paris Hilton-types to grumpy Hacker News readers (but thankfully not Bank of America), and I think they do a better than decent job at it. Also: I don't use Mail.app.
I don't consider the Mac's less-than-half-assed search facilities to be a superficial problem. I don't see how you can argue that a search that doesn't show WHERE it found hits is competent. Beyond that, it often just doesn't work. You can be sitting in a directory full of JPEGs and search for .jpg and get zero results. Zero.
And dismissing the asinine removal of the "get mail" button from Apple's default E-mail program because YOU don't happen to use it isn't exactly respectable, is it?
Mac OS DID satisfy a great many people; I've seen no credible (or even incredible) argument that the recent raft of faffing about with the UI has brought new users into the fold. That's the foundation of so many people's outrage over it: The changes offer no improvement and don't address any longstanding user requests. But it IS demonstrably regressive, and subjectively dated and tacky.
"Transparent" UI came and went 20 years ago for good reason.
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Yep. The secret "gestures," the peek-a-boo UI, and now "transparent" UI that overlaps other junk on the screen. It's not even consistent with itself. Example: On iOS, bring up the list of open pages in Safari; each thumbnail has an X in the corner to close it. Pretty intuitive and standard. But now bring up the list of apps running on your phone. There's nothing. No X or other affordance. Who the hell would guess he…
Except Jobs approved the design of that screen, which hasn't fundamentally changed since early versions of iOS (iPhoneOS). And it's that way because quitting apps isn't supposed to be something you do very often, if at all. Nowadays people clear the app history by habit, but it was really only supposed to be for misbehaving apps that were burning your battery, so having an affordance to make it easy was never the poi…
Steve Jobs opposed the idea of real applications on the iPhone in the first place. And Jobs also personally insisted that stuff be misspelled in the iTunes UI... if you believe the pushback in the bug report on it. So who cares if he approved another bad idea?
Quitting apps is something you need to do sometimes. And making it impossible to do, through obscurity, is stupid; as that can leave the application permanently disabled. This is not something I ever want as a developer.
Not to mention that people who don't need to quit an application won't go hunting for a way to do so, and thus the problem solves itself. That's why the vast majority of arguments for crippling things to shield users from "scary complexity" fail: Novice users will not even imagine that these functions are available, let alone go hunting for them.
And I quit apps BECAUSE I want them to "cold launch" next time. But my mom isn't ever going to do that. So rest easy: Your glass-jawed app is safe from the general public.
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This is tough. Most home devices are built to be absolute bottom of the barrel. Notice that almost every HomeKit device says it only uses 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi? Apple tried to do certification for a while in 2018ish, but nobody could get through it, so I think they stopped. Apple is starting to build their own home devices and I expect them to eat the market and cause improvement via competition.
HomeKit certification is still a thing if that's what you're referring to. You're very much right about the bottom of the barrel nature of home automation devices though. Most of mine are about as good as you can get though (Philips Hue etc.) and the Home app is still appalling. Even if all the devices I have attached worked properly and did what they're told when the automations run, there's still some absolutely ba…
I didn't realize they were still doing certification! And yeah... the app is bad.
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#219Tim cook did his job well. He increase stock value over and over again for the delight of the shareholders. He also increased the moat as large as possible. If you want a better product you will not get it from a publicly traded company. Sure you may claim that a bad product is bad for a company in the long term and it is. However short term stock increases are far more desirable than long term stability and growth.
No one can say if it was "as large as possible." It's at least plausible he left money on the table with some missed opportunities. For example: handing over the semi-pro video creator space to YouTube. Apple already a thriving podcast ecosystem, but failed to capitalise on it. There was a real opportunity for vertical integration with Apple selling hardware, targeted content creation software (a CapCut-a-like versio…
Also a couple of big investments that might have been better spent elsewhere e.g. Apple TV+ and the Apple Car. The vision pro and the audible gasp the audience let out when the price was revealed was a particular low point. Having owned that device for 14 days before returning it I wish they had left the screen off the front, reduced the weight by 25% and done something about the price. What good is a developer device that is hard to make, expensive and flashy.
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You might find that you are in the minority though. Nothing wrong with this at all but apple makes some of the best selling products in the market place and that has largely been because of Tim Cook.
Nothing you say is in disagreement with the comment you're responding to. And yeah, Apple is doing really well, in part because of their anti competitive practices. Good for them, bad for us. These responses talking about Apple's bottom line kind of feel like this convo: > Cigarettes are bad, they cause cancer. Philip Morris shouldn't be selling them > Yeah but they sell so many cigarettes! Isn't that great?
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