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Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by gorhill »

brycewray wrote: post #198
gorhill wrote: post #195

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Reddit's sponsored posts are blocked by default in uBOL when using _optimal_ (default) or _complete_ mode.

I will recheck my uBOL settings, then, sir. Thank you for your work! EDIT: I did have it set to `Complete,` so perhaps I have something else going on.

Best is to report the issue using the "Report an issue" in the popup panel while on Reddit site. There could be other issues causing this, for instance if you didn't grant uBOL the permission to inject scripts on the site. Depending on which browser/os the issue occurs, we should be able to narrow down potential causes.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by lxgr »

jim33442 wrote: post #205
lxgr wrote: post #84

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What exactly is your gripe with MV3? Many people seem to treat it synonymously with "no more procedural request blocking", but that's not a thing Mozilla ever did: > For Manifest V3 extensions, Chrome no longer supports the "webRequestBlocking" permission (except for policy-installed extensions). Instead, the "webRequest" and "webRequestAuthProvider" permissions enable you to supply credentials asynchronously. Firefo…

Look I'm not an expert in web browsers, but I defer to those extension authors who definitely are. There's some reason uBO doesn't work well in MV3 even though they tried. Whatever technical explanation there is for why MV3 is fine, there's some caveat not mentioned.

That’s because Chrome removed an important API in their MV3 implementation, not because the MV3 specification mandates said removal.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by inquirerGeneral »

lxgr wrote: post #94
evilpie wrote: post #79

> The Firefox team is experimenting with ways to improve the built-in Enhanced Tracking Protection feature in Firefox. This is one of the libraries we're going to experiment with. > - We are not, and have no plans to abandon MV2 extensions. This will ensure certain types of add-ons, like ad-blockers, continue to work best in Firefox. > - Firefox supports several ad-blockers as add-ons on Desktop and Android, includin…

> This will ensure certain types of add-ons, like ad-blockers, continue to work best in Firefox. Oof, so even people that should really know better are now equating MV3 with "no more ad blocking"? I think at this point the entire thing just needs to be renamed. (Only Chrome removed the request blocking API from their MV3 implementation; Firefox did not.)

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Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by MarsIronPI »

Timon3 wrote: post #202
MarsIronPI wrote: post #196

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Because the technical factors are what you experience when you interact with software written by a company/person?

And the non-technical factors are what my friends and loved ones have to experience due to Brendan Eich's choices. So again, why should I ignore them? I'm more than a user of software.

Because when we decide on a goal for our technical work and decide on an acceptable code of conduct inside the project, our differences outside the project don't matter to our collaboration within the project. This is a core foundation of the Free Software and Open Source movements. (And it's worrisome to me that it's being eroded.)

My point is that this same setting aside of irrelevant (to the technical aspects) differences should apply to use of software in addition to development of software.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by mzmzmzm »

I recently switched from Android to iOS... no comment except all of the browsers just being a wrapper for Safari is really limiting. I love Firefox and still use it on desktop but I couldn't handle it without extensions on mobile and switched to Brave. Somehow Brave on iOS can do content blocking really well. Will this change make it to the iOS version? I would love to switch back to Firefox where all my stuff is synced.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by Timon3 »

MarsIronPI wrote: post #214
Timon3 wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the non-technical factors are what my friends and loved ones have to experience due to Brendan Eich's choices. So again, why should I ignore them? I'm more than a user of software.

Because when we decide on a goal for our technical work and decide on an acceptable code of conduct inside the project , our differences outside the project don't matter to our collaboration within the project. This is a core foundation of the Free Software and Open Source movements. (And it's worrisome to me that it's being eroded.) My point is that this same setting aside of irrelevant (to the technical aspects) di…

I'm not working on a project together with Brendan Eich, I'm choosing not to use a product from which he directly profits. I sincerely hope that we both agree that this is a completely normal and rational choice.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by Timon3 »

rpdillon wrote: post #201
Timon3 wrote: post #177

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Why should they have to vet everyone? If I learn that the people who deliver my packages, manufacture my phones, or grow my food support practices that I deem fundamentally harmful to society, I change my behavior accordingly. Where does this weird idea come from that I have to vet literally everyone for my rejection of Brave to be valid? > The injection of politics into absolutely everything is so arbitrary and harm…

You're probably going to want to take a look at how your smartphone battery is made. You're taking a principled stand on the basis of not using a browser from a company cofounded by a guy that voted differently than you, but it sounds like you're willfully ignoring the child slave labor used to create the device you're using to type that opinion. Do as you please, but it makes no sense to me, and doesn't strike me a…

Sorry, but if you think that the issue is that Brendan Eich "voted differently than" me, you're either not understanding or willfully misrepresenting what this discussion is about.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by theturtletalks »

gorhill wrote: post #211
brycewray wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will recheck my uBOL settings, then, sir. Thank you for your work! EDIT: I did have it set to `Complete,` so perhaps I have something else going on.

Best is to report the issue using the "Report an issue" in the popup panel while on Reddit site. There could be other issues causing this, for instance if you didn't grant uBOL the permission to inject scripts on the site. Depending on which browser/os the issue occurs, we should be able to narrow down potential causes.

As the creator of UBO, what are your thoughts on uBO vs uBOL? Do you think Firefox’s MV3 will be an issue down the line?

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by MarsIronPI »

Timon3 wrote: post #216
MarsIronPI wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because when we decide on a goal for our technical work and decide on an acceptable code of conduct inside the project , our differences outside the project don't matter to our collaboration within the project. This is a core foundation of the Free Software and Open Source movements. (And it's worrisome to me that it's being eroded.) My point is that this same setting aside of irrelevant (to the technical aspects) di…

I'm not working on a project together with Brendan Eich, I'm choosing not to use a product from which he directly profits. I sincerely hope that we both agree that this is a completely normal and rational choice.

I think I failed to explain my point: Just like OSS contributors don't have to agree on anything but the goal of the project and how to treat each other while working on it, people shouldn't decide what software to use based on anything but the technical merits of the program.

Also, you don't have to benefit Brendan Eich by using Brave. Turn off the crypto and AFAICT Brave gets no money from you.

Not that I actually recommend Brave: I have no opinions on it. I'm just tired and worried by the attitude of judging software by the non-technical opinions of who wrote it.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by Timon3 »

MarsIronPI wrote: post #219
Timon3 wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not working on a project together with Brendan Eich, I'm choosing not to use a product from which he directly profits. I sincerely hope that we both agree that this is a completely normal and rational choice.

I think I failed to explain my point: Just like OSS contributors don't have to agree on anything but the goal of the project and how to treat each other while working on it, people shouldn't decide what software to use based on anything but the technical merits of the program. Also, you don't have to benefit Brendan Eich by using Brave. Turn off the crypto and AFAICT Brave gets no money from you. Not that I actually…

But why? You haven't given an argument. In our capitalist societies, I have two avenues of influencing public life: my vote and my wallet. Rich people like Brendan Eich have a much more impactful vote due to their capital, so the only real avenue I have left is my wallet.

So please explain: why shouldn't I use my wallet to prevent people like Brendan Eich from shaping society against my friends and loved ones? Why should I add to his capital while he's actively trying to make the lives of the people I care about worse?

> Also, you don't have to benefit Brendan Eich by using Brave. Turn off the crypto and AFAICT Brave gets no money from you.

Or I can use Firefox and strengthen the competition.

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