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Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by wrxd »

2001zhaozhao wrote: post #206

Apparently it's just an A/B test. Legit LMAO moment, speedrunning reputation destruction to your entire userbase just to test a question whose answer you can probably already guess. --- > For clarity, we're running a small test on ~2% of new prosumer signups. Existing Pro and Max subscribers aren't affected. > When we launched Max a year ago, it didn't include Claude Code, Cowork didn't exist, and agents that run for…

What does it mean that they’re running a test? If you’re one of the unlucky 2% you need to pay more?

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by taikon »

sshine wrote: post #183
someuser54541 wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please report back, would be very interested in your findings.

I ran OpenCode + GLM-5.1 for three weeks during my vacation. It’s okay. It thinks a lot more to get to a similar result as Claude. So it’s slower. It’s congested during peak hours. It has quirks as the context gets close to full. But if you’re stuck with no better model, it’s better than local models and no models. I have to say, OpenCode’s OpenUI has taught me what modern TUIs can be like. Claude’s TUI feels more li…

To be clear, was OpenCode a better in your opinion compared to ClaudeCode?

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Post by CrimsonShadow »

wrxd wrote: post #85

This is a risky move. I might have paid $20/month for my personal projects but the Max subscription is a bit steep. Now I'm going to learn more about local models. I don't need to be as good as a frontier model. Good enough and free from all this drama is a win for me

Same, I'm currently unemployed and the $20 help me to initiate many small projects. The recent taxing in the token made me start testing local models on my machine. Tho, Claude works better for the front end part imo.

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Post by robertkarl »

someuser54541 wrote: post #128
robertkarl wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was literally my task today, to try out Qwen 9B locally on my, albeit a bit memory-constrained at 18GB, macbook with pi or opencode. Before reading this update.

Please report back, would be very interested in your findings.

For what it's worth: here's my experience in the first 10 minutes of using Qwen locally to write some code. https://github.com/robertkarl/local-qwen-first-10-minutes it includes some token generation numbers and steps to repro.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by x0x0 »

redrix wrote: post #184

Next they’ll slowly reduce how much CC usage you can get out of the $100 Max plan, then introduce a new $300 “Max Plus” plan with “40x” usage. “You asked, and we listened: Introducing Max Plus, our biggest plan yet, designed for those…” blah blah

combined with 30-50% token inflation too. hmm.

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Post by saghm »

rideontime wrote: post #174
KarlMertin wrote: post #168

https://claude.com/product/claude-code - scroll to "Get started with Claude Code" and it's still lsited in the pro plan.

Ed’s replies show an archived Code support page that was changed today to remove mentions of Pro. They seem to be making these changes right now.

> making these changes right now

Would it really be that hard for them to just make all of the changes and then do a redeploy rather than doing them incrementally? It's not like they're just editing the raw HTML sitting on the server manually, right? Actually, don't answer that, I'm not sure I even want to know the answer.

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Post by hebleb »

maxall4 wrote: post #210

I have a Claude Pro tier subscription; Claude Code, as of right now, is still functional for me. If Anthropic does boot Pro-tier users off Claude Code, I will be cancelling my subscription.

I paid for the annual Pro plan in January...I know this mentions new users right now, but is there a chance they just take Code away?!

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by TacticalCoder »

sshine wrote: post #183
someuser54541 wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please report back, would be very interested in your findings.

I ran OpenCode + GLM-5.1 for three weeks during my vacation. It’s okay. It thinks a lot more to get to a similar result as Claude. So it’s slower. It’s congested during peak hours. It has quirks as the context gets close to full. But if you’re stuck with no better model, it’s better than local models and no models. I have to say, OpenCode’s OpenUI has taught me what modern TUIs can be like. Claude’s TUI feels more li…

> I have to say, OpenCode’s OpenUI has taught me what modern TUIs can be like. Claude’s TUI feels more like it’s been grown than designed.

Claude's TUI is not a TUI. It's the most WTF thing ever: the TUI is actually a GUI. A headless browser shipped the TUI that, in real-time, renders the entire screen, scrolls to the bottom, and converts that to text mode. There are several serious issues and I'll mention two that do utterly piss me off...

1. Insane "jumping" around where the text "scrolls back" then scrolls back down to your prompt: at this point, seen the crazy hack that TUI is, if you tell me the text jumping around in the TUI is because they're simulating mouse clicks on the scrollbar I would't be surprised. If I'm not mistaken we've seen people "fixing" this by patching other programs (tmux ?).

2. What you see in the TUI is not the output of the model. That is, to me, the most insane of it all. They're literally changing characters between their headlessly rendered GUI and the TUI.

> Claude’s TUI feels more like it’s been grown than designed.

"grown" or "hacked" are way too nice words for the monstrosity that Claude's TUI is.

Codex is described as a: "Lightweight coding agent that runs in your terminal". It's 95%+ Rust code. I wonder if the "lightweight" is a stab at the monstrosity that Claude's TUI is.

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