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US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Post by silon42 »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #164
oceansky wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not even a conspiracy at this point, Meta was proven to be lobbying hard for this via small proxy companies.

And why? What's in it for Meta? [Edit: Never mind, others have explained elsewhere in the discussion. It's the lawsuits Facebook is losing for addicting kids. So rather than, you know, stopping doing that , they want to instead legally force us to alter every OS on the planet. Disgusting.]

I wonder if they plan to provide "services" to web sites that need age verification... via their app and Facebook account..

As someone that doesn't have a Meta account (and will not), this could become potentially problematic.

Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Post by mkroman »

basch wrote: post #169
snaking0776 wrote: post #116

Politicians will do any draconian measure to help kids except try and improve the lives of their parents so that they can actually dedicate time to parenting. Making it slightly harder to access the internet fixes nothing. What if instead of having the largest prison population in the world our government supported communities that make raising good children possible? Our society needs to lose this urge to diagnose e…

well, and this bill literally only makes you prove age to ... set up the device. how are we in 2026 and phones dont have guest mode or "i handed it to my kid mode" apple's guided access is a terrible 1% solution to the problem. in one click i should be able to put my phone into some kind of locked down mode that exposes only what is allowed, starting with nothing unless whitelisted, with multiple profiles. in the sam…

> how are we in 2026 and phones dont have guest mode or "i handed it to my kid mode"

They do. Android have had multi-user and guest profiles since Android 5.

The only reason I really know this is because I heard how Google completely bungled it in Android 14 on Pixel devices[1] :D

[1]: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/android-14s-ransomwa...

Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Post by nekusar »

alphawhisky wrote: post #179
Jamesbeam wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got a house with a 25-year roof, an indestructible Japanese shitbox car I can repair myself from scrap if I have to, and enough in the bank at three to five percent to pay my taxes, all of my hobbies, eating steak every day if I wanted and my share of the universal multi-payer health care system in my country. That puts me for the rest of my life at a level of fuck you. And if the system breaks down, I’m just going…

Cannibalism threats on HN - is this a recession indicator?

To be fair, people who eat ultraprocessed foods are basically human wagyu.

https://health.yahoo.com/wellness/nutrition/articles/ultrapr...

Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Post by frogperson »

shevy-java wrote: post #152

Right now the lobbyists are winning. I hope Josh Gottheimer will get a lot of money for his work there. I also remember a few weeks ago, people such as Poettering and others said this is all harmless, nothing bad would ever possibly happen. Lo and behold, now it is the new mandatory law. All people will soon have to go for age sniffing, in order to access information. Linux is only for the Underground now.

I wish there were a way to fire lobbyists. There is no feedback loop, they can be as bad as they want and never suffer a minute for taking away peoples rights.

Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Post by HumblyTossed »

basch wrote: post #169
snaking0776 wrote: post #116

Politicians will do any draconian measure to help kids except try and improve the lives of their parents so that they can actually dedicate time to parenting. Making it slightly harder to access the internet fixes nothing. What if instead of having the largest prison population in the world our government supported communities that make raising good children possible? Our society needs to lose this urge to diagnose e…

well, and this bill literally only makes you prove age to ... set up the device. how are we in 2026 and phones dont have guest mode or "i handed it to my kid mode" apple's guided access is a terrible 1% solution to the problem. in one click i should be able to put my phone into some kind of locked down mode that exposes only what is allowed, starting with nothing unless whitelisted, with multiple profiles. in the sam…

Apple is a hardware company. They want to sell more devices.

Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Post by HumblyTossed »

snaking0776 wrote: post #116

Politicians will do any draconian measure to help kids except try and improve the lives of their parents so that they can actually dedicate time to parenting. Making it slightly harder to access the internet fixes nothing. What if instead of having the largest prison population in the world our government supported communities that make raising good children possible? Our society needs to lose this urge to diagnose e…

I would rather them write a bill that says all kids are provided lunches at schools ("free lunch" if you will).

I believe that would help kids out much more than this shit bill would.

Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Post by a2128 »

pjc50 wrote: post #49
RobotToaster wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is horribly vague. >a computer, mobile device, or any other general purpose computing device. It leaves open to interpretation if it applies to all computers, or just general purpose ones. Does a car count as a mobile device?

Car is clearly a mobile device; it has a touchscreen and an IMEI. Going to be fun when my washing machine asks me to upload a scan of my passport to the CIA before it will open the door.

This will be perfect for those washing machine manufacturers! It will permanently pair itself to your passport with e-fuses, so that if you ever try to resell your old washing machine on the secondary market, it'll be worthless unless you also sell the buyer your passport

Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Post by GaryBluto »

HumblyTossed wrote: post #217
snaking0776 wrote: post #116

Politicians will do any draconian measure to help kids except try and improve the lives of their parents so that they can actually dedicate time to parenting. Making it slightly harder to access the internet fixes nothing. What if instead of having the largest prison population in the world our government supported communities that make raising good children possible? Our society needs to lose this urge to diagnose e…

I would rather them write a bill that says all kids are provided lunches at schools ("free lunch" if you will). I believe that would help kids out much more than this shit bill would.

>("free lunch" if you will).

TANSTAAFL.

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