Bill Hicks had a really good point when he said people who work in advertising or marketing should kill themselves. They turn everyone elses experiences to shit just so they can have more money.
Oh look at that, Quarrelsome's going for the 'righteous anger' dollar. That's a good; that's a good market.
Everything we like is a psyop?
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#213Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's so weird to see empathy-speak be regularly co-opted by habitual mass manipulators. "I don't know if this will make you feel better... but we're concerned with manipulating the reactions to the reactions as well! See how much we care?" It makes me do a double-take every time someone shows actual empathy, because it's used so often as a manipulative tactic to shield oneself against critiques of soullessness.
Manipulation is emotional more than it is logical, about feelings than ideas, more in women than in men, and therefore for the majority of the audience of tiktok etc
I don't think this is necessarily true that manipulation is more emotional than it is logical. On the contrary, I believe that academics and well-educated people are very susceptible to it, especially the STEM crowd. All it takes to be manipulated is someone you trust and who is like you, who is in the same peer group and who speaks the same language as you. It makes no difference whether language is “emotional” or “logical”; enough scientists have reasoned themselves into the most ridiculous bullshit and it were mostly men.
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#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's so weird to see empathy-speak be regularly co-opted by habitual mass manipulators. "I don't know if this will make you feel better... but we're concerned with manipulating the reactions to the reactions as well! See how much we care?" It makes me do a double-take every time someone shows actual empathy, because it's used so often as a manipulative tactic to shield oneself against critiques of soullessness.
Manipulation is emotional more than it is logical, about feelings than ideas, more in women than in men, and therefore for the majority of the audience of tiktok etc
This is not true, in my experience. Men are just as, if not more, emotional and impulsive. Most women I know think way further ahead than the men I know, and improvise much less often. The idea that men are the rational ones is just a silly fantasy to make men feel better, I would argue. Rationality is much more correlated with socio-economic status than gender, I would bet.
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The whole psyop thing is only an issue if you use "popularity" and mass appeal (people following in instagram, etc) as a signal for finding stuff. The alternative is to listen to less filtered/signalless stuff (which isn't hard - bandcamp new releases lists (or my bandhiking app) or even their trending charts which seem to be unpopular enough that it's not entirely controlled by marketing (lots of unlistenable stuff…
You dropped this: )
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#216Psyop feels a bit dramatic. Either marketing turned you on to a band you otherwise wouldn’t have found, or your tastes are driven by trends and social/status signals from others. Either way that’s just (admittedly intense) marketing isn’t it? Maybe I’m missing something?
Marketing used to be obvious, now it's deceptive. You can't tell whether the content you're watching is genuine or astroturfing.
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#217it's called astroturfing and has been around since the dawn of the internet
I agree it's old, but I think it's reached a new high with short-form content. Now that people don't subscribe to creators they like but rather get an algorithmic feed it's much harder to detect astroturfing.
Like the articles says, these creators are easily identifiable, they typically create multiple videos a day about the same topic. But for the platform that doesn't matter.
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#218Bill Hicks had a really good point when he said people who work in advertising or marketing should kill themselves. They turn everyone elses experiences to shit just so they can have more money.
Wouldn’t it be wiser to ignore the messages of adversaries and marketers rather than suggesting people kill themselves? Who hasn’t fallen prey to marketing and propaganda on social media?
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#219Bill Hicks had a really good point when he said people who work in advertising or marketing should kill themselves. They turn everyone elses experiences to shit just so they can have more money.
Wouldn’t it be wiser to ignore the messages of adversaries and marketers rather than suggesting people kill themselves? Who hasn’t fallen prey to marketing and propaganda on social media?
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#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
But also don't squander the traffic with default dark mode with low contrast ;) Use the device mode hint at least The font for the headlines also looks 'off' to me. Letters too close together maybe
Also: one of the features of the underlying tech stack is that the UI is actually a completely separate module than the backend API. Different github repo, everything: the site is akshually https://api.bytecode.news and the UI at the "base url" is just one layer for that API. The goal was always to have multiple interfaces, all tuned for whatever the technology supported best: see https://enigmastation.com/2014/07/09…
Not sure your reply was meant for me but: just make as much as static as possible