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Nothing Ever Happens: Polymarket bot that always buys No on non-sports markets

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Re: Nothing Ever Happens: Polymarket bot that always buys No on non-sports markets

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Betting "no" on an outcome, is bettering "yes" on ALL other possible outcomes. There is even an operation for it: https://docs.polymarket.com/advanced/neg-risk

Am I misunderstanding? I think that’s trivially not true. Consider:

Joe Dart elected president Y/N

Cory Wong elected president Y/N

A no bet on Joe Dart is not a yes bet on Cory Wong.

Re: Nothing Ever Happens: Polymarket bot that always buys No on non-sports markets

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post #95

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My general observation is that people tend to underestimate the likelihood of black swan events (covid, financial crisis) even as it's pretty obvious they're happening. And then when they do accept it, they react too far the other way and assume it's never going to end. I've had success playing the markets in these specific cases. I did fritter away a lot of my gains from the financial crisis thinking I was a genius…

They underestimate the likelihood of black swan because it is very hard for adults to concretely imagine things that have not happened before and then even temporarily fully believe ~"dreams will come true." One of my go-tos on this is the Fukushima nuclear accident. IIUC there were plenty of folks in Japan who knew of the high risk. Perhaps many interested in nuclear energy outside of Japan, too. But the average adu…

Yeah, I can't say for sure it's going to happen, but I can clearly see a path where AI ends the middle class in developed countries, which has really only existed in its current form since WWII. Most people can't imagine that.

Re: Nothing Ever Happens: Polymarket bot that always buys No on non-sports markets

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_purpose_of_a_system_is_wha...

Compare and contrast https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/come-on-obviously-the-purpo...

>The purpose of the Ukrainian military is to get stuck in a years-long stalemate with Russia.

>These are obviously false.

The purpose of the Ukrainian military is to exhaust the Russian army's materiel and test out our weapons. "Years-long stalemate with Russia? Yes, please." -the US. Seems like an overwhelmingly common Scott Alexander L.

Re: Nothing Ever Happens: Polymarket bot that always buys No on non-sports markets

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post #207

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Yes, but I always found that objection a bit silly. It's like pointing out that real cows are obviously not perfect spheres nor do they live in a vacuum. > [...] if prices perfectly reflected available information, there is no profit to gathering information, in which case there would be little reason to trade and markets would eventually collapse.[2] That's a stupid way to formulate this. Markets wouldn't "collapse"…

Maybe not "collapse" in a the sense of going to zero but if there was no profit to trading, then the quant trading industry would not exist, trading profits would collapse. Meanwhile Two Sigma is hiring alpha quants to be AI research scientists at $250k starting salary + bonuses. Even if we're just talking about the HFT/sell-side, there clearly exist various anomalous inefficiencies that can be exploited. Fama's guy…

As I said, if we woke up this morning and prices were magically efficient in an idealised sense, at most a few quants would go home and retire early, and tomorrow we'd be back at the level (in-) efficiency that allows people to be market makers.

Re: Nothing Ever Happens: Polymarket bot that always buys No on non-sports markets

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post #214
post #194

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Compare and contrast https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/come-on-obviously-the-purpo...

>The purpose of the Ukrainian military is to get stuck in a years-long stalemate with Russia. >These are obviously false. The purpose of the Ukrainian military is to exhaust the Russian army's materiel and test out our weapons. "Years-long stalemate with Russia? Yes, please." -the US. Seems like an overwhelmingly common Scott Alexander L.

> The purpose of the Ukrainian military is to exhaust the Russian army's materiel and test out our weapons.

Since when does country A decide what the purpose of country B's military is?

Re: Nothing Ever Happens: Polymarket bot that always buys No on non-sports markets

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post #214

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>The purpose of the Ukrainian military is to get stuck in a years-long stalemate with Russia. >These are obviously false. The purpose of the Ukrainian military is to exhaust the Russian army's materiel and test out our weapons. "Years-long stalemate with Russia? Yes, please." -the US. Seems like an overwhelmingly common Scott Alexander L.

> The purpose of the Ukrainian military is to exhaust the Russian army's materiel and test out our weapons. Since when does country A decide what the purpose of country B's military is?

Since country A pays for country B's military.

Re: Nothing Ever Happens: Polymarket bot that always buys No on non-sports markets

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post #216

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> The purpose of the Ukrainian military is to exhaust the Russian army's materiel and test out our weapons. Since when does country A decide what the purpose of country B's military is?

Since country A pays for country B's military.

It's not even applicable here.

Re: Nothing Ever Happens: Polymarket bot that always buys No on non-sports markets

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post #209

Betting "no" on an outcome, is bettering "yes" on ALL other possible outcomes. There is even an operation for it: https://docs.polymarket.com/advanced/neg-risk

That's not true. The different outcomes don't have any relation to each other.
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