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Android Developer Verification

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Rounded to the nearest percent, I'd guess power users make up 0% of android user base.

Is it because people genuinely don't care, or because the barrier to become a power user is becoming taller and taller every passing year?

Is it because Android literally has billions of users across the world.

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Not sure why your observation was received poorly. It's true. If they actually wanted to fight bad actors they could (for example) introduce a voluntary verification program where an app cost $$$ per year to list, is permitted only a fixed number of updates per year, and the uploads are manually audited by an actual person. This would add a second tier to the app store. Just to drive the point home. Not that you woul…

What you are proposing won't solve anything, the #1 source of malware on Android is Play Store ads, here I said it. And Google benefits financially from the problem.

You "saying it" doesn't make it true.

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A 'safe' app store would promote and prioritize open source apps compiled on public auditable runners.

F-Droid is in fact what an app store concerned about user safety looks like. Nobody gets hoodwinked into installing apps that track them or sell their data or otherwise abuse them on F-Droid.

F-Droid is so irrelevant that it doesn't even begin being targeted by supply chain and scam attacks. Being obscure always help with this, but pretending that it's the same threat model is absolutely false.

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What you are proposing won't solve anything, the #1 source of malware on Android is Play Store ads, here I said it. And Google benefits financially from the problem.

You "saying it" doesn't make it true.

Meanwhile, on the Play Store... https://ibb.co/DJKGM8d

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What % of Android users actually want this? Do they know or care? I've been using Android since 2010 because it was open in ways that the Apple ecosystem wasn't. I do not want this and imagine hardly any other power users (for lack of a better term) do. I'm already using a mostly deGoogled device but this really seals the deal. I have been longing for a true Linux phone for years and now seems like a good time to get…

Rounded to the nearest percent, I'd guess power users make up 0% of android user base.

That is true but they are also some of the most vocal advocates of certain systems. It is a king of trust errotion that doesnt show up for a very long time but by the time it does it is too late to reverse.

Tge flipside of that is that Google and Apple have no viable alternatives. It would take years to build what they have.

It took Huawei about 5 years with Harmony OS to do it but odds if that making it far out side of China is limited.

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I’ve never found a malicious app on F-Droid.

Are you really unable to comprehend just how small of a userbase F-droid represents for Android ecosystem?

If it’s that small, how does killing it help anything?

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The thing is, the EU needs to be able to not only sell that the regulation they propose is good to the public, but also not piss off the US administration. Most people are too non-technical to understand why this is a bad thing even when it's explained to them. Plus, whatever administration is in power in the US has a lot of influence. Trump has already said that he wouldn't tolerate regulation that affects American…

> rump has already said that he wouldn't tolerate regulation that affects American companies This lays bare the stupidity of applying the pay-or-consent law to only Facebook and not everyone. Every important newspaper in Europe has pay-or-consent. It does not matter that each one individually is smaller, the effect is the same. The law was carefully crafted to ensure European businesses (newspapers) are not "gatekeep…

So? There is a fundamental difference. The app stores have effectively become utility companies through the Android-iOS duopoly and it is neigh-impossible to make a new competitive ecosystem. Utility companies are regulated because they can distort the market with their power otherwise. E.g. if the power lines are owned my a single company (which is the case in many countries), if they were not regulated, they could pretty much ask any price. What are you going to do to compete? Roll out a completely new power grid? The Android/iOS duopoly is the same, the fact that they could ask for an insane 30% (!) of every transaction before the regulatory squeeze started should tell you enough.

The newspaper market is very different, because there are many players and you can always go to a competitor. There are even newspapers that make all content available and ask an optional donation (e.g. Taz in Germany or to some extend The Guardian, who do not seem actively block ad blockers).

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Really, there are apps that will intercept and exfiltrate your bank one time code sms that are just sitting on the play store? First I'm hearing of this, what's the name of one?

Many of the most popular apps on the Play Store will monitor all activity on your device and send it to a for-profit company.

The pre-installed privileged services will monitory all activity on your device and send it to a for-profit company.

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That sounds a lot like my experience as an Apple Developer too, with the added bonus (unclear from your description if you experienced this too) that they took my money before the verification process was finished and wouldn't refund it once their AI couldn't connect my face to my ID and wouldn't let me connect with a real person (the first dozen times were on them, but after that it was maybe my fault for including…

> Is there a way around this shitocracy? Refuse to play. Switch to technologoy that the shitocracy has not gotten around to yet, or, eventually, pick up woodworking.

I am doing leatherworking as well as woodworking. No idea if it is possible to actually make money with this¹, but damned if I'm not giving it a go just to have skills in an area where AI is not a threat for the coming decade. At the very least these crafts allow me to make things which do not exist and cannot be purchased off the shelf.

1: I mean, it is, certainly. I'm just not sure if I can make money by making leather gear.

Re: Android Developer Verification

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Good job google. You just convinced our entire business to abandon our app (utilities company) and only target web. We are done with this shit. All our resources the next two weeks will be to fill in the gaps in our web clientzone so our thousands of customers can still buy electricity and pay water bill and have a similar experience than the app (it's 90% the same anyway).

Oh and my three personal apps that I installed via adb (not released on playstore) - the moment they stop working on my phone or hassle me about verification, I will get in my car and go buy an iPhone.

Next will be to degoogle the rest of my life, which is luckily only gmail. Guess how long it will take me to port out? Less than two days.

I only let companies violate me once. Then I'm out.

Play store is the biggest piece of trash malware system that exists today, but us normal businesses have to pull teeth and spend days jumping through hoops to get an app out, but the playstore is filled with infinite garbage that rot childrens brains.

Wake up.

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