Hey, I'm only 3 months into attempts to clearly uninstall MSI software form my laptop, so i can reinstall it (it refuses to install atm), because it seems to be the only way to...... set the battery charging limit.
Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall
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Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall
#212I worked on a disk utility in the 90s called PartitionMagic that was one of the first ones to let you dynamically resize disk partitions. Maybe Samsung used that when naming their product. I am old, but I miss the days when the install process was copy . to / and the uninstall process was delete /
Windows is the same now. Due to "new and better" approach, each program puts its data in 5 different folders for "multi user" reasons. What is infuriating that all those folders are hidden and all of them are on C: drive. So your C: drive gets clogged. This makes it impossible to track how much space each program uses. (On a side note its been years since floppy drives were the A: drive... and yet we are still stuck…
What is infuriating is that programmers that make 6 figures not knowing the diff between AppData\Local and \Roaming.
I'm the ass that gets the support call. I'm getting accused of delivering shit. I'm the guy that needs to write workaround scripts.
Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall
#213Earlier quoted context omitted.
This problem has been around for decades. An application installer doesn't just copy some files to a few directories. It may put them in hundreds of different places. In addition, it adds entries to the registry or other system files. Even the best uninstallers or cleaners miss something when deleting the app. This is one of the many issues my side project is designed to address. Imagine if installing every applicati…
> Uninstalling an application would mean just deleting all the objects in its package. The files would be gone and any configuration settings with them. Applications developers of the world. Please always make "keep configuration" an option with your uninstallers! I don't like the mobilification of PCs. For example, because of some issues, I wanted to try a different version of Thunderbird. I had the Snap version. Un…
I think it's a snap "feature".
Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall
#214For personal reasons I am avoiding all Samsung products and over the years it seems like I unintentionally dodged one annoying issue after another.
My in-laws bought a Samsung TV, and I swore them off when I saw ads on the menu. Then I stayed in Hawaii for a while and my rental had a Samsung washer… it had a DOWNLOAD setting on the dial so I could hook up the app… for… washing clothes… it didn’t clean anything, it had a minutes long process of shaking my clothes about to get a feel for them before it bothered adding a lady’s thimble full of water… nope. I had ne…
The days of quality Samsung products are long over.
Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall
#215About ten years ago, I bought a low-end Samsung TVZ, intended to hold me over until OLEDs got into a non-silly price range. Based on that TV, I will never buy anything from Samsung again. It had, get this, a _variable audio lag_. Audio might be nearly in sync, or might lag by a couple hundred ms, depending on the TV’s mood at the time. Just incredible that they ever thought this was a reasonable thing to sell.
Was electron available back then? Maybe they did sound processing with it.
Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall
#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a mac user for 10+ years that cycled about 7 macs for personal and professional use, I've used Finder about biweekly to click on the airdrop button..
Please enlighten me on the alternatives (I hope it's not just iTerm2)
Midnight Commander inside iTerm2 :)
Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall
#217If you're installing Samsung Magician for firmware updates, keep in mind that you can always update your firmware without using it and it's just as safe.
How?
Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall
#218Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the file menu of the installer, there is generally an option to see all the files it is placing on the system with full system paths. I generally note this down so I can make sure to clean things up completely if/when needed. For app that just get dragged into the Applications folder, they end up doing all this additional file creation on first-launch instead of via an installer. That actually makes it harder. For…
I'll have to check that installer trick the next time I use one. Isn't the "Receipts" folder that so angered OP kind of that same thing? I thought those included the list of files installed. In general, I think some worries about removing "every trace" are overblown, though. The receipts, for instance, are inert and they're not filling up the disk or consuming RAM. Of all the things Apple does in the name of "securit…
> In general, I think some worries about removing "every trace" are overblown, though.
It's impossible to overstate how little I want random crap on my machine.
Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall
#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the file menu of the installer, there is generally an option to see all the files it is placing on the system with full system paths. I generally note this down so I can make sure to clean things up completely if/when needed. For app that just get dragged into the Applications folder, they end up doing all this additional file creation on first-launch instead of via an installer. That actually makes it harder. For…
> I still think it’s ridiculous that Apple never solved for this. I think that problem, in general, is unsolvable on the Mac. The OS cannot know whether a file that an application creates is a user file that should be kept on uninstall or an application one that, maybe, should be deleted on uninstall. ( Maybe because Apple’s guidelines say (or at least used to say) uninstall ers, if you have one, should keep preferen…
Yeah, it's usually plist files for preferences and maybe an Application Support folder with whatever the app needed. Occasionally some other things. More recent apps end up with a container in there.
The upgrades process for some apps almost necessitates that the those files/folders are decoupled from the app and can live on, as the app upgrade ends up deleting the existing app and dropping a new one in it's place.
I get wanting to keep user preferences around in spirit, but in practice keeping them forever can sometimes be problematic. If I tried an app, then installed it again in 8 years. I usually want to start over. For users who don't know about the ~/Library, this is hard. Especially now that Apple hides it in Finder.
When having issues with an app, deleting those files (or simply moving them somewhere else like the desktop as a test) is a great troubleshooting step to see if its an app problem or something corrupt in your settings or support files. When most users reinstall an app as a troubleshooting step, they aren't doing much of anything, with all those files sticking around.
UTM buries their VM disks away in a container inside the ~/Library. I have a 20GB disk in there. It's not always trivial small files. If someone deletes UTM and forgets to check for old VMs first, that's a big hit.
What I'd like to see is a something, maybe in the Settings app, that lists all the applications on the system and 3 options.
1. Remove Application, keep Library data 2. Remove Application and Library data (have it give into on what files are in there) 3. Remove Library data only (this could be used to refresh an app to start over with it)
Maybe in addition to that, as part of the Optimize Storage feature, it could crawl through all those old orphaned application support folders and containers, and list all the ones without an app installed, show the size, and the user can choose to get rid of them.
Looking at how much junk I have out there now, I may just do a re-install of my OS to clean things up soon. I usually wait for a new system, but this M1 Pro is lasting a long time. I recently migrated off 1Password and it seems to have a bunch of junk out there, including 4 year old weekly archives of all my passwords that it took for a few months for some reason. The files are encrypted, but who knows how long that will actually be good for.
Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall
#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's obvious why they wouldn't give a shit about that, though - the Mac is not their main focus. Most companies that make software for PCs are obliged to make at least Windows and Mac versions, and to build an application "The Apple Way," using SwiftUI, and things like "CloudKit" etc. would mean a whole dedicated Mac-experienced design team and Mac-experienced engineering team. This would result in an app that fundam…
>This would result in an app that fundamentally works and behaves differently than their app would on Windows, because these operating systems have different conventions and standards. Not always the case. Sometimes the gui app is just wrapping some script written in a general purpose language. Button just calls a function. Yes writing the function to draw the ui button element might take a different syntax, but they…
I maintain a pretty complex app to draw 2D graphics for 3D objects. For packaging productions. Basically draw your packaging design with 3D preview. So this is basically a 2d3D editor with TONS of business and material knowledge.
It’s powered by react.
But it so decoupled from react you can slap mini gui in any other form / framework in a day