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Mystery jump in oil trading ahead of Trump post draws scrutiny

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Post by tmountain »

altacc wrote: post #59
mrtesthah wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elections and a collectively demonstrated will for justice.

Elections are already being used for collectively applying "justice", just not the type that stops corruption. Instead it's right wing mob "justice" against the woke and immigrants and all the liberal tears are the prize the braying mob that voted for autocracy wants and they're happy to accept corruption as long as they don't think it affects them. Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all types we'v…

The framers of the constitution acknowledged the flaws and vulnerabilities of democracy and cited education as a prevention mechanism for an ill informed population voting against their own best interest. It’s no coincidence that public education has been under constant assault from the right since Reagan.

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Post by chasd00 »

T-A wrote: post #205
chasd00 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mentioned this in another topic by Trump mentioned the pause before the TruthSocial post in an interview on FoxNews. I can't remember who it was with but I think her name started with an "M". If I can find a link and timestamp i'll come back and edit this post.

After, not before: FOX Business' Maria Bartiromo spoke with Trump shortly after the post, and Trump stressed, "Iran wants to make a deal badly." https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-orders-war-dept-postp...

my mistake, i can't go back and edit my comment otherwise i would.

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Post by casefields »

saidnooneever wrote: post #75
unyttigfjelltol wrote: post #62

1. By a show of hands, who was surprised that the cataclysmic warnings of the weekend subsided into talk of diplomacy on Monday? 2. Let’s hypothesize the US gov’t or allies did pre-release this info to traders as a policy tool, inviting them to sell oil profitably, shaping the later price action . In a practical sense they may have brought more speculators to the short side than otherwise would have been there; is th…

no one was surprised. i imagine both sides are actually in the same game. why do u think trump allow iran to sell oil still -_-. there was a lovely post earlier today on HN laying it all out pretty eloquently. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47499822 i personally think the people who do _business_ on both sides will find their way to profit out of this. as they always do. if u look at the timing of statements u…

What’s wrong with your shift key?

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Post by tmountain »

tombert wrote: post #176
NegativeLatency wrote: post #106

Martha Stewart was sent to prison for less

I hear this a lot, but she did deserve to be punished. Her defense tried to act like she innocently and accidentally sold some stock based on something a friend told her, but they neglect to mention that she her career started as a stock broker and as such should have been familiar with regulations, and she was on the New York Stock Exchange’s board of directors during the scandal. It's not some innocent mom who acci…

She was targeted because James Comey wanted to leverage her fame for his own career advancement. Not justifying what she did, but it’s no coincidence that she got roped.

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Post by chatmasta »

mikewarot wrote: post #193

I'm not sure if this is parody or not, but someone admitted to it. These days it wouldn't surprise me if it were this brazen. https://x.com/gothburz/status/2036413487530831899

That’s a parody account. I mean this in the nicest way possible, but if you cannot tell this is parody within the first two sentences then you should be very careful when reading twitter. This is a common format and other accounts are far more pernicious. My feed in the morning often starts with a dozen parodies or outright falsehoods with no community note.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they “let” it happen by optimizing for double clickthrough engagement produced by the inevitable “grok is this true?” at the top of every thread.

The worst part is that the only way to develop immunity to, and pattern recognition for, these parody accounts is to subject yourself to them repeatedly. So the people who can recognize the fake tweets the quickest are also the people who read them the most. And there are plenty who never develop the pattern recognition…

It’s definitely some form of social infection.

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Post by zehaeva »

metabagel wrote: post #194
inaros wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you run the numbers: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47504505 You will see, that anything else other than a ground invasion, is guaranteed to give Iran a war victory.

Iran can block the Strait of Hormuz indefinitely. They are demanding war reparations from the United States. Since Trump won't do that, the best case scenario seems to be that one or more third parties - Europe, India, Japan, Saudi Arabia, etc. - offer(s) Iran a package of financial incentives and security assurances which convince Iran to end the war. If only Muad'dib were here. He could find a way through.

>He who can destroy a thing has the real control of it.

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Post by tmountain »

gosub100 wrote: post #105
jmyeet wrote: post #46

It’s almost like turning the president into a monarch by baselessly granting total immunity was a bad idea, foreseeably so . This is the new normal. I want people to really think about what’s going on here. $1-2 billion of taxpayer money is being spent every day to literally kill people for stock and futures trades . And nobody will be punished for this. Anyone who gets a whiff of legal trouble will just buy a person…

Trump is compromised by blackmail and we are fighting the war for Israel.

What could he possibly be blackmailed for at this point? There are zero consequences to anything he says or does.

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Post by metabagel »

mothballed wrote: post #11
PxldLtd wrote: post #8

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That's the neat part, they get richer whether the war is happening or not. Some get way richer when there's a war on.

The US ended most of their subsidies to Ukraine last year. Historically the defense-industrial complex is eager to stir something else up as soon as one money source gets cut off. After Afghanistan it went to Ukraine, and after Ukraine it has to be something else. This is the unstoppable flow of the defense industry moving to a new outlet.

The U.S. didn't invade Ukraine.

We gave Ukraine a lot of old stuff from our stockpiles and bought new stuff for ourselves.

It's generally not called a "subsidy". It's called "foreign aid".

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Post by robocat »

guzfip wrote: post #183
pear01 wrote: post #101

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It's not that complicated. Elect a Democrat in 2028 who will nominate a strong AG, not a useless ditherer like Garland. What a disgraceful tenure he had. If he was going to take so long to bring charges he should have just avoided it. Instead he takes 3 years to bring all these charges which naturally look like election interference and as such are paused until they choke the election away and the new justice departm…

> Elect a Democrat in 2028 who will nominate a strong AG Impossible. Democratic Party power is concentrated into a gerontocracy mostly interested in preserving their own wealth/power. Appeasement and encouragement of status quo will be the result of any Democrat victory. Of course all this Trump shit is good precedent for them to use similar tactics to line their pockets next time.

> gerontocracy

It's not like you see better behaviour from 41 year old Zuckerberg or other younger founders.

At least with old people, you eventually have a slim chance to be one of the old bastards in charge.

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