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Study finds no evidence cannabis helps anxiety, depression, or PTSD

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As an aside, it is a well established fact that doctors, as a whole, take the the pain of black people much less seriously than the pain of non-black people.

Even black doctors? Does this finding hold across different nations?

As far as I know just the USA, and yes, even black doctors.

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Who is this “everyone”? I smoke weed because it helps with my anxiety. Is it a perfect “treatment”? lol It gives me some respite, that’s it.

Every professional psychiatrist and doctor

Ok dude, everyone says so.

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again this is why there's less trust in science these days.

there's lived reality vs what you wish reality was (lab conditions)

some people do find relief in marijuana etc to treat pain, some people find relief in treating ptsd with LSD

while at the same time - we find more cases of psychosis from marijuana

telling someone their lived experience is a lie is very foolish and looking down on people.

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Would love to learn more about how this is the case (both assertions). Mind sharing? Neuroscience seems to be coming through with more and more understanding using technologies like fMRI and others the past 5-10 years. There is definitely some understanding there.

Amen Clinics have been covered on sciencebasedmedicine.org a few times (2008 and 2013) from the look of it. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/spect-scans-at-the-amen-cli... https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/dr-amens-love-affair-with-s... Both https://sciencebasedmedicine.org and https://theness.com/neurologicablog/ are good resources for detailed research into science and medicine. With Neurologica having some good dee…

Insightful, thanks. I typically separate the personality from the assertions and look at the assertions individually in present time due to the incredible lag time between knowledge and it becoming practiced in the clinic. Professionals can best practice 5-10-15 year old information because they haven't caught up, there's a lot to stay on top of.

The first link is from 2008 and claims EMDR doesn't work (I believe it emerged in the 90's and new things are generally resisted in health until they're not), and that Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy doesn't help the brain, both are understood to be helpful in ways beyond this article in 2026. Unrelated to Amen, fMRI is helpful with TBI imaging.

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> Cocaine was originally believed to be a viable treatment for depression. Is it not?? Sure there's the addiction and harm from abuse that make it less than ideal for long term use, to put it mildly, but weed isn't coke so what's really the argument here?

Acetaminophen blunts the parasympathetic nervous system…what do you think cocaine could be capable of?

Tylenol causes depression, got it. Advise to take seriously.

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I think there’s probably some adjacency to other things which make people feel good, but are ultimately bad for them. Gambling, alcohol, porn, infinite scroll social media. There are a few people making a ton of money on this stuff and the social costs aren’t something they care about.

Lol pornography is not fundamentally bad for people. This remains the weirdest widespread take on HN

It is: https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/

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Amen are definitely fraudsters. Russell Barkley talks about this topic in this video: https://youtu.be/R_HCw-QePaA?t=900 The short version, as I understand is, is that brain scans show differences at the population level but not on the individual level. Amen claim to both diagnose ADHD through brain scans (which is already impossible) and also diagnose various "subtypes" of ADHD like "Limbic ADD" which have no scient…

Thanks I’ll check out the video. I didn’t think their clinics only worked on ADHD. Other types of imaging like fMRI are being used successfully by others as well for things like TBI, so I won’t jump to ruling out all types imaging. Is it true that psychiatry doesn’t prescribe off imaging but symptom clusters?

You can pirate a copy of the DSM-V and see the diagnostic criteria for yourself. It's particularly interesting to me (as I believe the field has "crystalized" more than it has right to) that two people can be diagnosed with "ADHD" but share few overlapping symptoms. Separately, fMRI evidence is still not solid on its own, it has to be paired with stronger science to be at all useful, but even so studies based on it tend to suffer from numerous problems. The most infamous case being a "study" that found brain activity using fMRI of a dead fish. That was in 2009. In 2020, Botvinik-Nezer et al. published a paper about 70 different research teams analyzing the same fMRI dataset and producing wildly different results. It's a blunt instrument but people are deceived into thinking it's really solid; it's not.

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That's just arguing for drug legalization with extra pseudoscience. I am all for people doing however much cocaine they feel they need. In broad daylight - let's just drag that into the light and let people go to the dispensary for cocaine hydrochloride, metered, measured and with warning labels. Because the war on drugs is a stupid waste of time and lives, but no doctor or medical professional has to justify your ow…

It’s also an argument for quackery and snake oil, as long as the salesman declares “some people said it works!” “People should be allowed bodily autonomy to take whatever chemicals they want” easily and dangerously turns into “People should be able to advertise and sell miracle cures that don’t work as long as their victims are gullible.” Every snake oil fraudster hides their fraud behind principles like bodily auton…

There is already much snake oil sales and marketing going on, it's already enabled by arguments that are not based on bodily autonomy, which suggests that a move towards more respect to bodily autonomy will not noticeably increase such snake oil. The resistance to homeopathy has not gone well. I actually believe the resistance is actively harmed by making legit chemicals harder to get instead of easier. When people can easily get the good stuff that works there's not much of a market for the easy to get snake oil that doesn't.

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American media has really been shockingly pro weed/cannabis for the past 20 or so years. Really astounding to witness considering the well known downsides to human health and cognitive function. Main characters smoke weed as a cool disobedience, in sitcoms even. Wonder what is behind it, from my perspective it's quite remarkable.

Since the 1960s and the emergence of the New Left, and the introduction of the Frankfurt School and 60s post modernism into academia, there has been a widespread belief amongst a large segment of the population that everything traditional is wrong. A social stigma is merely ignorance, that which is seen as bad is actually good, traditions are wrong. All of these things need to be overturned for the enlightenment. Sin…

No sources, pure bullshit. This is a common right-wing conspiracy theory: just throwing words like "Frankfurt school" or "post-modernism" without understanding them, accusing "the Left" (with a capital L, as if it was a secret cabal) of orchestrating a decades-spanning Grand Plan to indoctrinate children, etc. Insanity.

Also makes me laugh whenever I see right wingers accuse the left of post-modernism, when Trump is the most post-modernist guy I know. The man literally never says the truth: according to him, we destroyed 100% of Iran's armament [1], Iran were the ones to strike their own girls school and oil prices are as low as ever.

[1] https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1162279041433...

Re: Study finds no evidence cannabis helps anxiety, depression, or PTSD

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As a middle aged guy who has used pot on and off for decades and no longer really enjoys the high, I'll say weed is good for two things: Old man joint pains. Not headaches, broken bones, etc. But it nearly erases achy joint pain for me. Being angry. I am much less angry in general when I'm smoking a bit every couple of days. That said, when I take a break I feel like my testosterone goes through the roof. I get more…

Weed is great for my anger and sleep. I’ve never found as good of a sleep medicine for someone who wakes up too early. I also had debilitating anger in my teens and weed really helped calm that down. I’ve been off it for years at a time and I still can’t get past my anger without it. That said my memory is shit

I found it used to disrupt my ability to fall asleep, and I didn't dream, or at least didn't remember doing so. It also impacted my memory when awake, which makes sense if it was messing with my sleep cycles.

However, I was able to fix all of those problems by consistently ceasing use 4 hours prior to going to sleep.

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