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Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

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post #98

I'm really struggling to understand how Anthropic is benefited by not allowing this. Its bad PR for no good reason. The only thing I can figure is that Claude Code is hemorrhaging money, they're too afraid to actually enforce reasonable token limits, and the only thing that's keeping it from totally bankrupting the company tomorrow is: controlling the harness and having the harness dynamically route toward Haiku or S…

This is my theory. They don't want other harnesses to use this because it costs them more. I don't know exactly how OpenCode works, but I'm assuming when people are using this plugin they are mostly using Opus for everything while Claude Code really only uses Opus for writing the actual code. It uses Haiku and Sonnet for almost all of the tasks outside of writing code. So it hard for them to control and understand th…

you can choose your own model in claude code and it generally defaults to Opus

Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

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post #98

I'm really struggling to understand how Anthropic is benefited by not allowing this. Its bad PR for no good reason. The only thing I can figure is that Claude Code is hemorrhaging money, they're too afraid to actually enforce reasonable token limits, and the only thing that's keeping it from totally bankrupting the company tomorrow is: controlling the harness and having the harness dynamically route toward Haiku or S…

You can use OpenCode programmatically, thus turning that $200/mo Claude Code account into a very cheap Opus 4.6 API service. I don't think there's anything really to it past that.

Can you show any service that is selling API because they have turned a $200/mo Claude code account into an API service? Give me a break.

Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

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post #34
post #18

The OpenCode guys have really surprised me in the way they've reacted to Anthropic shutting down the side-loaded auth scheme. Very petty and bitter. It's clearly just a business decision from Anthropic and a rational one at that, usage subsidization to keep people on the first party product surface is practically the oldest business move in the book and is completely valid.

This seems like pure misinformation. The code lines that are actually changed: hint: { opencode: "recommended", -anthropic: "API key", openai: "ChatGPT Plus/Pro or API key", }[x.id], They're removing the ability to use OpenCode via Anthropic API key

I believe parent is talking about a separate topic, not about this change.

Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

#214
post #34

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This seems like pure misinformation. The code lines that are actually changed: hint: { opencode: "recommended", -anthropic: "API key", openai: "ChatGPT Plus/Pro or API key", }[x.id], They're removing the ability to use OpenCode via Anthropic API key

This is what most people in the comments are missing. They are removing the ability to even use Anthropic APIs not just your Max subscription.

this not true. api keys are supported. only "claude code" is being dropped.

that code is just a cli hint to which LLM they recommend using. so they stop recommending anthropic. rightfully so.

Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

#215
post #59

This and threatening OpenClaw (now at OpenAI), Anthropic really on a roll making friends in Open Source. Previously discussed I think: Anthropic Explicitly Blocking OpenCode (173 points, 157 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46625918

> threatening OpenClaw IIRC it was called Clawdbot when Anthropic complained. IANAL but I believe the holder of a trademark is obligated to defend it against infringement. Hard to say that Clawdbot was not potentially infringing, given its purpose. It's not clear how much leeway Anthropic had given his initial choice of name.

so they own the trademark to Clawd? Or is it suppose to be Claude?

Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

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post #123

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The OpenCode bun dependency is an unsettling issue I would imagine.

I think frankly OpenCode is delusional to think that Anthropic is actually "concerned" with them in any way. Anthropic's concerns at this point are on the geopolitical level. I doubt stamping out ToS-violating usage of their subscription services is even on executive radar. OpenAI only allows it because it's a cheap PR win and they take those where they can get them.

Opencode is not delusional, it would be delusional to think Anthropic won't after they have already threatened them.

Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

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You can use OpenCode programmatically, thus turning that $200/mo Claude Code account into a very cheap Opus 4.6 API service. I don't think there's anything really to it past that.

you can also use Claude Code programmatically with the `prompt` parameter in the cli.

And they can ban your account if they think you are doing that. I think someone even commented here on HN they were banned by Anthropic for this.

Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

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post #157

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> This argument has been decapitated countless times already on HN. No it hasn't, because the argument is completely correct, and the people mad about it are mad they can't have unlimited usage instead of paying the token API prices. > This move is anti-competitive and Anthropic knows it. No it isn't, that's not what "anti-competitive" means, and no court in the world would label it as such. You can't go flailing aro…

API is intended for massive scaled operations (companies) and has no hard usage limits, a subscription is intended only for individual usage (solo dev) and has therefore hard usage limits. Is it that difficult to grasp the difference between API and subscription models?

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Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

#220
post #48

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This is not my impression, could you explain what you're talking about?

Ever since the shutdown of the side-load they've been pretty vocally anti-anthropic on twitter. Paranoid that anthropic is going to torpedo them via some backdoor now that they own bun, insinuating that anthropic shut down the auth from a position of weakness since OpenCode is a superior product, etc. The thing is OpenCode IS a great product, I'm not sure it's "superior", but unfortunately the way things are evolving…

I wouldn't call OpenCode a "great" product tbh. It's nice that it's FLOSS of course, but the overall quality is a bit underwhelming and it's clearly possible to build much better open agentic harnesses. It would be nice if more people tried to do this.
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