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Microsoft's 'unhackable' Xbox One has been hacked by 'Bliss'

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Post by b00ty4breakfast »

genewitch wrote: post #197
mschild wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US Department of Defense went quite a bit further. They created the Condor Cluster in 2010 which was comprised of 1760 PS3s. At the time it was placed 33rd worldwide for a supercomputer. https://phys.org/news/2010-12-air-playstation-3s-supercomput...

at some point it was claimed that the reason sony removed the ability to run linux was because, literally, Saddam Hussein (maybe not) was using them to pilot jets or somesuch.

I haven't looked, but I am pretty sure that Saddam was dead before the ps3 launched. At the very least, his 2003/2004 ouster was before the ca 2007ish (I think) launch date.

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Post by devmor »

joe_mamba wrote: post #23
devmor wrote: post #18

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> Case in point, it took 13 years of constant community effort to hack it. Can you attempt to quantify this effort in comparison to other game consoles? I'm not very familiar with the Xbox scene, but I would assume that there was a lot less drive to achieve this given that Xbox has never really had many big exclusive titles and remains the least popular major console (with an abysmally tiny market presence outside of…

>and remains the least popular major console (with an abysmally tiny market presence outside of the US). TF are you on about? The xbox one of 2013(competitor of the PS4 who got hacked long before) had a ~46% market share in the US and ~35% globally. Hardly insignificant. And any Microsoft Product, even those with much lower market share, attracts significant attention from hackers since it's worth a lot in street-cre…

Can you provide a source for those statistics? They don’t match up with any numbers I’ve seen, and in fact look ludicrously unrealistic.

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Post by devmor »

deadbeef7f wrote: post #37
devmor wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Case in point, it took 13 years of constant community effort to hack it. Can you attempt to quantify this effort in comparison to other game consoles? I'm not very familiar with the Xbox scene, but I would assume that there was a lot less drive to achieve this given that Xbox has never really had many big exclusive titles and remains the least popular major console (with an abysmally tiny market presence outside of…

> Can you attempt to quantify this effort in comparison to other game consoles? The person who hacked the original Xbox wrote a book on the topic, which they've since made free: https://bunniefoo.com/nostarch/HackingTheXbox_Free.pdf

Oh that’s the best source I could ask for, thank you!

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Post by aizk »

autoexec wrote: post #51

> Whether PC users, our core readership, will be interested in actually emulating Xbox One, looks unlikely. The 2013 system’s game library is largely overlapped in better quality on the PC platform. And this explains why it's stayed unhacked so long. There was very little incentive to hack the system when the games are all playable on a PC. Pirates, cheaters, archivists, and hackers could just go there. Microsoft's b…

Definitely there's some truth to it

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Post by platevoltage »

Jerrrrrrrry wrote: post #8

Created a voltage drop that exactly occurred to be timed to the key comparison, then a spike at the continuation. Irl noop and forced execution control flow to effectively return true. B e a utiful

This sounds like a way less crude version of the way many unlicensed NES cartridges got around the lockout chip. Just charge a capacitor and blast it at boot time.

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Post by platevoltage »

debugnik wrote: post #29
devmor wrote: post #18

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> Case in point, it took 13 years of constant community effort to hack it. Can you attempt to quantify this effort in comparison to other game consoles? I'm not very familiar with the Xbox scene, but I would assume that there was a lot less drive to achieve this given that Xbox has never really had many big exclusive titles and remains the least popular major console (with an abysmally tiny market presence outside of…

I too forget sometimes that Wii U existed.

I forgot that my Wii U existed until I remembered, hooked it up, and the NAND had gone bad.

So I replaced the NAND by soldering in an SD card, got it working again, and put it back in its box until I decide I need to play Wind Waker again.

Re: Microsoft's 'unhackable' Xbox One has been hacked by 'Bliss'

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Post by devmor »

debugnik wrote: post #29
devmor wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Case in point, it took 13 years of constant community effort to hack it. Can you attempt to quantify this effort in comparison to other game consoles? I'm not very familiar with the Xbox scene, but I would assume that there was a lot less drive to achieve this given that Xbox has never really had many big exclusive titles and remains the least popular major console (with an abysmally tiny market presence outside of…

I too forget sometimes that Wii U existed.

Wow. I really did forget it existed. I was still thinking of the Wii.

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Post by bitwize »

ls612 wrote: post #202
genewitch wrote: post #199

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unhackable subscription ignition interlock device?

unhackable brain-computer interface required for most daily activities (like phones are today) and with a killswitch "for the public safety" and 24/7 cloud monitoring. Obviously this is pretty out there science fiction today but will it remain so in a century? And if it doesn't, what kinds of political systems are likely to dominate? What will happen to those political systems that for one reason or another decline t…

Before we even get there, within 5-7 years new PCs will be Xbox-like, locked down devices. Only approved OS and apps may be installed, as it is a felony to run an OS that doesn't meet federal and state KYC ID requirements or even own a copy of one without a license, and no PC manufacturer wants the liability risk of being found complicit in the commission of such crimes. General purpose computing will be a thing of the past for the masses (who didn't really want it anyway). Server hardware will be exempt from these requirements, but to purchase it you need a D-U-N-S number and a statement of intended use in the purchase agreement.

Even if it were possible to find a vulnerability in the hardware, doing so without attracting the attention of law enforcement will be profoundly difficult, as Windows sends telemetry back to Microsoft about every instruction that runs on your hardware. Apple will claim to be more privacy-focused, at least for a year or two, but the M9 chip's NPU will just perform local inference on your activity and report you to Apple and the FBI if it detects attempts to break security.

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