A mobile failover would be cheaper and would give you better connectivity in heavy rain. A 4G dongle can be purchased for $15, rather than $200 for a Starlink Mini. Then, let's say your main internet source fails and you need to actually use the backup plan beyond the standby amount of 0.5 Mbps. That will cost you a minimum of $50 for Starlink, versus roughly $25 for a month of unlimited cell service. As for standby…
TFA specifically calls out not wanting to depend on 4G/5G coverage, which is anything but ubiquitous: > It has the advantage of working pretty much anywhere with a view of the sky so no relying on mobile network coverage. I'm also not sure if $25/month is anything close to the global average for unlimited 4G/5G data (if even available).
Starlink Mini as a failover
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Sounds way too high to me, I am paying €8.80/month for unlimited 5G, calls and texting
UK is a bit more expensive than that but not silly. I can get close to £10/mo but that's because I'm already paying that carrier ~£30/mo for two separate SIMs (mine and my kid's). The £9/mo deal offered below is just half price for 6 months, it then becomes £18/mo. https://5g.co.uk/unlimited-data-sim/ The bottom of the page does give some details about what "unlimited data" means here in the UK between the different…
Re: Starlink Mini as a failover
#214A mobile failover would be cheaper and would give you better connectivity in heavy rain. A 4G dongle can be purchased for $15, rather than $200 for a Starlink Mini. Then, let's say your main internet source fails and you need to actually use the backup plan beyond the standby amount of 0.5 Mbps. That will cost you a minimum of $50 for Starlink, versus roughly $25 for a month of unlimited cell service. As for standby…
I live a 25 minute train ride from london in a town with about 16000 residents, on a busy street 5 minutes walk from the main station. My cell is unusable.
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If you're in a rural area (and heck, even in an urban era) the primary ISP of a region dropping is likely to cause a lot of congestion from cellphones falling back to the operator network. I found it quite absurd that Spectrum (my cable operator) wants to sell me a modem with integrated 5G/4G backup knowing that as soon as the cable plant drops, hundreds of local phones are going to congest the network as well and my…
I noticed the pattern. 5G disappears when ISP is down. Everyone WFH trying to get on I guess.
If our site wireless dies, it’s a near instant logjam as we watch 1500 phones and cellular devices on our WiFi alone dump back to the macro network for data to the sole tower on campus.
Out of hand management also becomes an immediate nightmare in this scenario when we need to swim upstream of the phones.
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I live a 25 minute train ride from london in a town with about 16000 residents, on a busy street 5 minutes walk from the main station. My cell is unusable.
Three in Hitchin? My personal mobile is on EE. My wife's is on Vodafone. My work mobile was on O2. (We don't have a fourth device that was on Three unfortunately, otherwise we'd have all of the major carriers covered.) There are plenty of places I've been around the UK where only one of our devices could get any kind of signal.
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Is that £49 a month, or £49 for the 500GB data? Sounds useful!
Mine was £49 one off for 500GB renewed each month for 2 years. Here's another example: https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/three-500gb-preloaded-5g-da...
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Five or six! My kingdom for one fiber provider.
Might be shared infrastructure
So at that point, each one has its own cables.
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> My carrier detects and throttles hotspot traffic by measuring packets TTL, so I tweaks the router's iptables to dodge that. Could you elaborate on this?
Some mobile phone providers check the packet TTL to limit tethering. Network packets commonly have start with default TTL values of 64, 128, or 255. Each hop in the network subtracts 1. When phone connects direct to carrier (cell tower, I assume) the carrier will see TTL of 64. A laptop tethered to a phone introduces a hop so laptop-to-phone TTL is 64, phone-to-carrier TTL is 63. Carriers can then limit bandwidth if…